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    #16
    For me the things I couldn't deal with were the laptop screen refusing to wake up no matter what I did, a couple of moments when it looked like all my data had gone until I rebooted. Annoyingly, this one left behind no forensic evidence that I could find, but the biggest one of all* was the random terminal selection in my three pane yakuake layout. To be honest, 16.04 behaves perfectly on my other computer with the exception of picking odd terminals in yakuake.

    * Not really
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      #17
      Yakuake here works as expected. Are you sure you didn't have "Open at mouse location" selected?

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        #18
        I don't know, I'll check on my second PC tonight or over the weekend.
        If you're sitting wondering,
        Which Batman is the best,
        There's only one true answer my friend,
        It's Adam Bloody West!

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          #19
          Related issues....

          Originally posted by elijathegold View Post
          ...
          1. The external monitor on the HDMI port loses it's background, widgets and right click menu sometimes when it wakes up. If the monitor sleeps without these it may get them back when waking up! I think this is a bug worth filing, if I can figure out a pattern.
          I have an issue.... some issues actually, which I believe relates to your above issue and I will file a bug for it because I have a pattern.

          The issue occurs when I have a second screen attached and close the Laptop Lid while having set "Lock Screen" as the action on Closing the lid.

          The symptoms are:
          1. The lock screen appears briefly on both screens. The external monitor then reverts to showing the content that was on that monitor.
          2. On Unlocking several things are borked: Window decorators are missing. Window management is absent (cannot ALT-CLICK-DRAG to move a window). The task manager on the panel is partially borked (new items doesn't get added, closed windows doesn't go away, but right-click still displays the application's "Control Menu" (Right now I can't recall what this menu is called, the one you get when you click the application's top-left corner/icon, from where you can minimize, maximize, etc)

          Another issue I have also relates to me using two screens, and so may or may not be a separate bug:

          Disconnecting and re-connecting the external monitor causes the display to become borked - the symptoms are:
          • The K-menu needs to be clicked 3 times
          • When the K-menu does appear, it shows in the wrong position.
          • The external monitor goes to a resolution of 640x480 (but it's offset from the laptop panel is correctly remembered!!!!!)


          Note: Log out and back in fixes the K-menu issue.

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            #20
            Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
            Yakuake here works as expected. Are you sure you didn't have "Open at mouse location" selected?
            Haven't been able to find that option, but logically that's not the cause. Yakuake still slides down from the top of the screen as normal, it just selects a random terminal when it does.
            If you're sitting wondering,
            Which Batman is the best,
            There's only one true answer my friend,
            It's Adam Bloody West!

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              #21
              Originally posted by elijathegold View Post
              Haven't been able to find that option, but logically that's not the cause. Yakuake still slides down from the top of the screen as normal, it just selects a random terminal when it does.
              The "Open at mouse location" option does not change the position on the screen from which Yakuake opens, just which monitor it opens on. AFAIK, there is no way to configure Yakuake to open from anywhere but the top of the screen.

              I assume you mean by "random" that it does not follow the mouse cursor when opening, like it does here (when enabled). I suggested this as a possible culprit because while it does in fact follow a pattern, it may not be obvious to someone unaware that this is the current default behavior.

              I am somewhat baffled how you could fail to find this option, as it's on the very first page presented to you when you select "Configure Yakuake" from the menu pulldown (lower right, middle button, bottom bar, in the Yakuake window). In the lower portion of the menu "Window" tab (the default opening location for this menu), under "Position" is the "Open on screen" option. If you see "At mouse location" selected there, change it to the desired monitor.
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                #22
                Originally posted by elijathegold View Post
                ...it just selects a random terminal when it does.
                Also, I'm going to nit-pick here; IME proper terminology can be very helpful, if not absolutely imperative, to trouble shooting and problem solving in technical discussions. To whit, technically Yakuake is a "terminal" or more properly a terminal emulator whereas your monitors should be referred as "monitors" or "screens." Obviously, for this discussion I understood what you meant, but better to be more precise than leave things open to interpretation. This isn't intended as a criticism, just expressing my opinion.

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                  #23
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                  So, on this machine I have only one monitor but as you can see I have three terminals. When using 14.04, the first time I use yakuake it will select the bottom right terminal and thereafter the previous terminal used. When in 16.04 it opens with the cursor in a random terminal. On a system with multiple monitors it always appears on the primary.
                  If you're sitting wondering,
                  Which Batman is the best,
                  There's only one true answer my friend,
                  It's Adam Bloody West!

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                    #24
                    I am confused. Are you saying that on the same machine, at the same time, you are running both 14.04 and 16.10 and having them share the same montor?
                    "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                    – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
                      I am confused. Are you saying that on the same machine, at the same time, you are running both 14.04 and 16.10 and having them share the same montor?
                      No. I'm comparing behaviour between 14.04 and 16.04.

                      yakuake in 14.04 behaves correctly and predictably by positioning the cursor on the last terminal (session?) used whereas yakuake in 16.04 positions the cursor randomly in one of the terminals. I am quite a heavy user of the terminal and can be ssh'd in to two different machines and working locally at the same time. Entering a command on the wrong machine can be dangerous as well as annoying.

                      I'm getting used to checking where the cursor is now.
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                      If you're sitting wondering,
                      Which Batman is the best,
                      There's only one true answer my friend,
                      It's Adam Bloody West!

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                        #26
                        Ah, thanks for the clarification!
                        "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                        – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by elijathegold View Post
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                          So, on this machine I have only one monitor but as you can see I have three terminals. When using 14.04, the first time I use yakuake it will select the bottom right terminal and thereafter the previous terminal used. When in 16.04 it opens with the cursor in a random terminal. On a system with multiple monitors it always appears on the primary.
                          Ah, now I see what you mean. I don't use Yakuake this way, I use tabs instead. I'll try it out and see what happens - if I can. Today's update caused my 16.04 install to be unbootable. I haven't tried a second reboot yet.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                            ... Today's update caused my 16.04 install to be unbootable. I haven't tried a second reboot yet.
                            As another datapoint: the five kernel packages installed normally and my system rebooted normally after that update. I didn't let Discover do the update. I aborted it and ran Synaptic instead. Don't know why. Normally I use apt-get at the Konsole.
                            "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                            – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by elijathegold View Post
                              No. I'm comparing behaviour between 14.04 and 16.04.

                              yakuake in 14.04 behaves correctly and predictably by positioning the cursor on the last terminal (session?) used whereas yakuake in 16.04 positions the cursor randomly in one of the terminals. I am quite a heavy user of the terminal and can be ssh'd in to two different machines and working locally at the same time. Entering a command on the wrong machine can be dangerous as well as annoying.

                              I'm getting used to checking where the cursor is now.
                              I finally was able to boot back into 16.04 (took some work) and have tested this. So far @here it works like you describe it should. I'll leave it this way and see if something changes (or maybe a recent update cured it?).

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                                I finally was able to boot back into 16.04 (took some work) and have tested this. So far @here it works like you describe it should. I'll leave it this way and see if something changes (or maybe a recent update cured it?).
                                OK, a couple minutes into it and I see what you're seeing - the focus is shifting from one terminal to another. If you report the bug and link it back here, I'll second it...

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