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    Ultra-wide monitors and the effects on desktop usage and function vs. dual monitors

    I'm sure most of us have salivated over the new ultra-wide 21:9 monitors that are out now - if not you're a stronger person than me! Anyway, after a year or more or research and waiting for the right combination of features at an acceptable price - I bought one.

    As you can see in my sig it's the Acer XR382CQK. A whopping 37.5" wide with 3840x1600 resolution. Have no doubt - this thing is huge. I'm lucky that I have a large desk that I custom built to handle 3x24's side-by-side so this thing fit well. Although, due to the depth of the stand I had to set it to the left of center. It's a corner desk made in three pieces, long left and right wings and a smaller center section - works great when I have 5 computers set up at once!

    For the sake of the discussion;
    My basic criteria was: USB 3.0 hub, at least 2 inputs, good warranty and company reputation, curved, and in the middle of the price range for these devices. My desired upgrade was to have more real vertical height on-screen because I have multiple things going on all day (I work at home on two different computers or more) and my eyes are over 50 so a larger picture would be very helpful.

    My previous setup had been triple screen HD 24" monitors hooked up to three computers. Through various input switching, the two laptops could share one or two of the monitors with my main desktop which could use all three. About six months ago, I was able to dump one of the laptops and about the same time, I damaged one of the 24s so I was down to 2x24's - an overall resolution of 3840x1080. The laptop also had an HD monitor so I still effectively had 3 monitors, but it's only 17.6" so harder to read. Historically, Iv'e been using dual monitors since I was able to pick up an extra Dell 19" 1280x1024 (4:3 ratio) for cheap over a decade ago.

    I've had this new monitor for about a month now. I put both 24"s away and closed the laptop lid for good. Both the laptop and the desktop are hooked up to it and I'm now using a single monitor.

    Right away I started noticing the effect of how Plasma places new windows on the screen - seems rather random, but mostly in the upper-left corner. Too often I have to travel the mouse to the far left to retrieve a window and put it in front of me. Also I use the "Application Dashboard" rather than Launcher or Menu so it's now very w-i-d-e and can by a bit annoying to find what I'm looking for. In both these cases, the dual monitor setup worked better.

    On the plus side, I can easily have three windows open and fully readable right in front of me and the picture is much brighter and clearer than on the older monitors. Also of course, the occasional game I play (mostly 0 A.D.) is wonderful to behold at 3840x1600

    Due to the width of my setup (both previous and now), I place my taskbar on the right side of the screen and this works well in either configuration.

    I would love to be able to have windows open in the center of the screen and if Application Dashboard could be configured to be contained in a central part of the screen, but these are not deal breakers for me. I was considering dual 27" 4K monitors for a bit, but that was an even more expensive option. Overall I'm happy as heck with the change.

    If you're interested in the Acer monitor, you can look up the specs, but I can tell you out-of-the-box it looked awesome, the speakers are OK - not equal to my Bose, but not horrible. The IPS panel has the normal backlight bleed but it's way less than the Dell 24" I had and it turns itself off completely (no glow) when sleeping and the Dell didn't. The curve is noticable in a good way - not overdone. There's a set of downward facing LEDs that you can change the color (I like the blue myself) that work like a keyboard light - awesome. My only gripes are input switching requires several clicks of the monitor buttons vs. the Dell had a configurable one-touch input swap, and the USB ports are on the back-side of the monitor. The side or even top would have been a better location as they're kind of hard to reach - left hand under the monitor, twist the wrist to plug in towards you, and hope you have the thumb drive right-side up! I choose this one because of a native 75Hz refresh without the added $100-200 dollars that G-Sync adds to the price.

    EDIT: One other gripe: The speakers have no direct connection and no independent control, only through the HDMI/DP ports so when you switch inputs the audio switches to the new source and you can't manually select and hold a specific audio source. I would have liked this so I could launch music on one computer and still hear it while using the others.

    I paid $1200 on sale, no tax and free shipping. Half a paycheck, but I'm at it all day every day so worth every penny

    The high- end LG's are $1700 and the low end, smaller (34" and lower res) are about $700.
    Last edited by oshunluvr; Jun 23, 2017, 11:53 AM. Reason: added speaker comment

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    Ultra wide seem a bit silly to me

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      #3
      Wow! That's very impressive ... NICE and check out the keyboard in that video too ... it's a riot of color!
      Last edited by Rod J; Jun 23, 2017, 11:53 PM.
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        #4
        Right away I started noticing the effect of how Plasma places new windows on the screen - seems rather random, but mostly in the upper-left corner. Too often I have to travel the mouse to the far left to retrieve a window and put it in front of me.
        Have you looked at window rules? In System settings, Window management. There's a bewildering forest of options, and I'm not confident they all work, or in every combination. "Position" "Remember" might be a simple approach.

        And there's KWin scripts... who knows what they can do, or how, but it sounds like they can do stuff like this.
        Regards, John Little

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          I have a couple settings groups for certain apps in Window Rules, but I don't see a way to change the default behavior. As I think about it though, I mostly use 8-10 programs so if I set those to position the way I want, that wouldn't be too hard.

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            #6
            LOL,,,NICE

            I get it .

            now keep in mind my computers are strictly for fun ,,,,I do no real work on them just entertainment , ,,,,,,and yes I spent $2,400 on the system76 bonox8 just to D1*k around on

            But I keep an old Dell tower hooked up to a 24" HP flat screen monitor through the VGA cable & the 38" VIZIO TV through the HDMI side input .

            this allows us to watch TV ,,,or just by selecting the HDMI side input from the TV's remote it becomes the second monitor for the Dell and we have our Netflix,HULU,Amazon prime, or whatever else we want off the NET . the Dell is cotroled with a wireless keybord/mousepad combo.

            + the TV's main HDMI input is plugged into a HK-AVR , 7.1 channel surround sound system that utilizes the ARC (audio return channel) of the TV & AVR ,,,so whatever is playing on the TV gets pumped through the AVR at 100 watts per channel + the 270 watt self powered subwoofer ,,,,the speakers are ONKYO 7.1 channel system rated at 130 watts each .

            So in our living room that is only 12'x18' you get crystal clear concert level sound that can cause hearing damage ... LOL

            now if I want to use the TV as a second monitor for the Bonox8 I just rip the HDMI out of the side input on the TV and whatever windows were on it from the Dell pop over to the HP monitor ,,,,,,,plug in the HDMI from the Bonox8 and poof their is the desktop

            @oshunluvr have you considered setting hot keys for window moving in system settings>shortcuts>Global shortcuts>Kwin ?

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              @oshunluvr have you considered setting hot keys for window moving in system settings>shortcuts>Global shortcuts>Kwin ?
              No I haven't. Maybe a set of hot keys that move the window left-center-right or connect the function to a mouse button? That would be awesome!

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                #8
                Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                No I haven't. Maybe a set of hot keys that move the window left-center-right or connect the function to a mouse button? That would be awesome!
                what was real easy to set was "Alt+Shift+R" for "quick tile rite" & "Alt+Shift+L" for "quick tile left" on active window .

                + the default "Ctrl+F9" to "present windows" then use the arrow keys to walk through them ,,,,,,and/or the "Alt+tab" window switcher

                VINNY
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                16GB RAM
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                  #9
                  be sure to also check system settings->desktop behavior-> desktop effects. some of the things like present windows are desktop effects that can be configured here and / or swapped out for different effects that my do more of what you want for your screen layout
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sithlord48 View Post
                    be sure to also check system settings->desktop behavior-> desktop effects. some of the things like present windows are desktop effects that can be configured here and / or swapped out for different effects that my do more of what you want for your screen layout
                    I looked there and didn't see anything applicable to my issue, thanks tho.

                    I've been adding window rules as I open various programs, which I've discovered a benefit to this way of handling it - windows I typically like on one side or the other and of a particular size I set exactly where I want them. Windows that are less often used or that I have no particular work flow for, I center. Seems to work OK for me and not really too much effort as I do them when I launch them the first time.

                    I also took Vinny's idea and added the Left/Right half-screen window function (the same effect you get when you drag a windows to the left or right center-edge and release it) and attached them to two otherwise useless mouse buttons (Home and Email) on my mouse. This works jiffy quick, I just select the window and click one of the buttons and it moves immediately.

                    For JPenguin or others that might not get why one would want this large and wide of a screen, here's a screenshot (reduced, but full screen) of my windows laptop and a full-size HD VMWare virtual machine I work with all day;
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                    The teal-ish backgound window is a full 1920x1080 VM without having to go to full screen mode and I can still work with the other associated programs I use along side it.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by oshunluvr View Post
                      The teal-ish backgound window is a full 1920x1080 VM without having to go to full screen mode and I can still work with the other associated programs I use along side it.
                      Nice,,,,,

                      VINNY
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                      16GB RAM
                      Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores

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                        #12
                        Standing across the room waving an airmouse while reading a feed or customized to that day e-mail headings is a fundamentally different manner of dealing with things as opposed to sitting at a desk. one thing being that one does no spill coffee on the keyboard.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by woodsmoke View Post
                          Standing across the room waving an airmouse while reading a feed or customized to that day e-mail headings is a fundamentally different manner of dealing with things as opposed to sitting at a desk. one thing being that one does no spill coffee on the keyboard.

                          woodjustcommentingsmoke
                          LOL, right?

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