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    Issues with Plasma Digital Clock Widget

    Hello all,

    first of all, I have Kubuntu installed for some days now and the transition went smoothly and without problems.. In fact I love it and I wouldn't wanna miss it anymore. However, there is a problem I ran into:

    I have set up my time to Venezuelan Time (VET) in the system settings. Everything is set up correctly and works fine. However: The digital clock widget in the taskbar shows the wrong time, actually the system time +1 additional hour. As I said, system time is correct and timedatectl does also show the correct time. The only issue I get is if I run the ntp command, that it keeps saying .INIT. without actually initializing, though timedatectl says that it does sync and in whatever case, the time is correct. I suppose there is a bug of the widget getting the wrong time, however I wasn't able to find the appropriate file or folder to make any changes.

    A different thing I noticed: The time zone selection of the clock widget has way more options in it, then the timezone list in system settings. There are timezones without names, like UTC -1, UTC -2, etc. The Digital Clock Widget shows the correct time, which supports that it is a widget error.

    Please advice. Thanks in advance.
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    #2
    That is exactly how I have set it up. In the system setting the time appears correct. However in the digital clock widget, the time is one hour ahead (even though the time is set to Caracas). If I switch to a different widget for example the analog clock or the other, the time displays correctly. Besides that: In the setting menu of the widget, there are far more time zones, than there are in the system settings. Some time zones there don't even exist in system settings.

    I am fairly sure that it is a bug with the widget, that is somehow getting the wrong time for Caracas (maybe some DST setting accidently enabled in the setting ((though Venezuela doesn't have DST)). I have read on KDE Boards, that another venezuelan guy had that issue. However, he claimed that it was a confirmed bug that was fixed... apparently it is not..

    I have so far been unable to fine a way to check or change the config files of the digital clock widget to find the error. I am fairly sure it's an easy fix for someone who knows where to look.
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      #3
      Exactly. The time shown in the system time is correct, the widget shows the wrong time... but just the digital clock one. The others are fine. If you go on the widget config you will see there are loads more time zones and options in it to select from as well.. some duplicate and some no names, simply named UTC something which are the same as the other just without name.

      Since it is exactly one hour I suppose it either gets the wrong time zone or - most probably - it has a DST setting enabled which is invisible. In fact that is the only logical choice. Because Venezuela is UTC - 4,30. That said, we are a very rare time zone with a media hour difference... hence there is no time zone UTC -5,30. It is most likely some DST issue.. or maybe the time in the widget config is set wrongly... someone by accident pushed 5 instead of 4.... I was spending some time looking through the widget files in the KDE folder but I could not find any config file that had this information. The system related files in the zone folder, etc. are just fine and timedatectl shows the correct time. Hence it is an issue with the widget.
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        #4
        Heh I will have another look in order to see if I can find the config File.
        Any hints on where to look would be appreciated.

        Bedankt.. Dank u well...
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          #5
          I read something similar on the kde forums, where I guy from Venezuela said it was fixed... now this might sound noobish, but I did not find said update.. at least the update manager did not come up with anything and apt-get upgrade / update did remain fruitless as well.

          Any advice would be appreciated. Either way, I will keep doing some investigation to see what I can come up with.
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            #6
            Originally posted by BenjB83 View Post
            Hello all,

            first of all, I have Kubuntu installed for some days now and the transition went smoothly and without problems.. In fact I love it and I wouldn't wanna miss it anymore. However, there is a problem I ran into:

            I have set up my time to Venezuelan Time (VET) in the system settings. Everything is set up correctly and works fine. However: The digital clock widget in the taskbar shows the wrong time, actually the system time +1 additional hour. As I said, system time is correct and timedatectl does also show the correct time. The only issue I get is if I run the ntp command, that it keeps saying .INIT. without actually initializing, though timedatectl says that it does sync and in whatever case, the time is correct. I suppose there is a bug of the widget getting the wrong time, however I wasn't able to find the appropriate file or folder to make any changes.

            A different thing I noticed: The time zone selection of the clock widget has way more options in it, then the timezone list in system settings. There are timezones without names, like UTC -1, UTC -2, etc. The Digital Clock Widget shows the correct time, which supports that it is a widget error.

            Please advice. Thanks in advance.
            Yes, I fully agree with this. I also experienced the same after I updated my distro. I could not set the clock automatically. Every restart of the laptop causing the time to change randomly. I tried several solutions online, but none of them worked. Then I experienced other issues too. For example, I have 12GB ram; but 'KInfocenter' is showing only 3.8GB RAM on the first screen. When I click the 'Memory' tab, it is showing correctly as 12 GB.

            I found rolling back the updates is very complicated and always not accurate. So tomorrow, I will format my machine and re-install 15.10 stable.

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              #7
              Hey,

              I think your post is not related to mine, as I don't have any issue with the clock itself, but only with the widget. Also the time is not changing randomly but works fine - besides the one hour difference I have on the issue. I am running 15.10. I was not aware there was a newer version out yet. However, I have been told that the best way to go is upgrading to LTS versions, as they are most stable (not saying that the regular versions are bad, but the LTS versions just have 2 years of testing and work in it... ).
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                #8
                That's what I am waiting for... 16.4. Thanks god it's not too long... besides that, 15.10 is running very well and with only minor issues... Then once I am with 16.4 I will wait for the next LTS before upgrade, if there isn't any good reason to do so before... :P

                On a different note: Even with the bugs and issues 15.10 has, it is way better and much more reliable then any windows was, maybe aside from 3.11 :P So it's still a fair deal.
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                  #9
                  Well, I think we can close that. I just got some information about a 150MB Update which included serveral packages and security update. Including an update of KDE. That has not only made the Desktop much nicer, but also fixed the issue - along with some other minor things. So far I did not find any other issue that has occurred as a result of the update.

                  Great work done!!!

                  Cheers,

                  Ben
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                    #10
                    thanks for your posts. Apparently the latest distro that I am using is still under development. So, I just re-installed my old distro 15.10 back. It just took 20 minutes - I used systemback; tada! everything including data, user settings, preferences - all back to normal.

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                      #11
                      Not a problem. You are welcome.
                      Thanks to everyone for the help.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BenjB83 View Post
                        That's what I am waiting for... 16.4. Thanks god it's not too long...
                        Note that an LTS release offers no extra stability over any other Ubuntu release, at least initially. Also, it's on an Ubuntu cadence, which has no relation to KDE. IIRC KDE 4 landed on an LTS release and it was not good. However, for extra stability you can wait for the point releases, 16.04.1, .2 and .3, about 3 months for each I think. So if you want any extra stability you'll wait till July.
                        Regards, John Little

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