(from Planet KDE). OK, so how do I find out which versions I'm running here? Frameworks was supposed to have been worked on to resolve issues of all apps open at shutdown re-appearing all on Desktop 1 on bootup. I don't see any improvement yet. If I'm not running these latest after Muon Update and reboot, how do I get them specifically from the ppa?
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To find your frameworks version go to System Settings --> Help --> About KDE
To get your platform version open Dolphin --> click Control --> Help --> About KDE
You get the ppa from here.
https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+...untu/backports
First
ThenCode:sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
Then Reboot.Code:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Notes:- Read the links provided if you haven't done so. There are some at the bottom of this post.
- The ppa is not part of the official repository. Things didn't break for me, but they could for you. It depends on your setup and what you have installed.
- There are a lot of packages. It could take a long time depending on the speed of your system. My system was a 32 bit VirtualBox guest and the host is not capable of hardware virtualization. It took an hour or so, maybe more, but it made it. The oxygen theme looks better than breeze.
Here are some previous posts about it here on Kubuntu Forums.
Oxygen window decoration is missing
Don't upgrade to 15.04 just yet, like I did
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No useful info here
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Reports platform 4.14.8
OK - did all that (cut-n-paste to make sure). Updated firefox and flash-installer-plugin. Nothing different.Originally posted by life0riley View Post
Discovered System Settings --> Help --> About System Settings returned Plasma 5,3.2 and Frameworks 5.12.0 - all up to date - so it's still broken. C'mon Frameworks team - work on a raw 15.04 install to check you've really done the job.
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I'm only going off the info you provided in this thread. There are no links for me to look at to bring me up to speed.Originally posted by Fester Bestertester View Post
Given that...
Do you log in with an empty session?
System Settings --> Startup and Shutdown --> Desktop Session --> On Login Start with an empty sessionsigpicComment
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No, I've never tried that, and don't see any need to. I start up, as stated, looking for previously-open apps. On shutdown, many if not most log their size and position, and desktop. These can be restored - and have been until recently. Desktop users do not typically run their machines 24/7, and resumption of previous sessions (as near as possible) gives a rapid morning boot-up, with hints of the thread of thought continuing...Comment
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No, I've never tried that, and don't see any need to. I start up, as stated, looking for previously-open apps. On shutdown, many if not most log their size and position, and desktop. These can be restored - and have been until recently. Desktop users do not typically run their machines 24/7, and resumption of previous sessions (as near as possible) gives a rapid morning boot-up, with hints of the thread of thought continuing... click on my name to see my profile for other threads - or have they aged out?
OK, so you think there might be a stale session being repeatedly restored on bootup?Last edited by Fester Bestertester; Aug 11, 2015, 10:14 PM.Comment
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OK, tried it - same old same old.
What I'm trying to do here is give feedback to the devs from a user's perspective. The Italian motor industry has the expression "Omologato" - GTO being Gran Tourismo Omologato, and the omolgato means homologation - design and manufacture as fit for human use. All my threads have this aim.Comment
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...and I noticed during shutdown a fleeting dialog that said Plasma shut down abnormally. I'm becoming more and more inclined to +++ re-do from start +++ . I might even try a 15.04 VM in Virualbox. I wonder if the woes here might bleed over?Comment
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I thought that might be the issue...Originally posted by Fester Bestertester View Post
but maybe I read this wrong. Maybe you had certain apps open on different virtual desktops when you shut down, but they all end up on Desktop 1 when you start up again and not where you want them (I can't find that post). In this case starting with an empty session is not your solution.Originally posted by Fester Bestertester View Post
I wouldn't try this unless you are running on a 64 bit host with hardware virtualization enabled, enough cpu cores to give your guest two, and enough memory to give your guest 4GB. Performance will be dismal on a 32 bit host without hardware virtualization.Originally posted by Fester Bestertester View PostsigpicComment
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Other symptoms:
Switching virtual desktops is not clean: required desktop will appear, sometimes only partially, but there will be parts of the previously-active desktop still showing. click on (one of) the app/s desired from the desired desktop in the Taskbar will usually clarify, clearing away the remnant/s.
Occasional display of all open apps (normally icons in Taskbar) thumbnailed in one desktop. Selection of one will restore normal view with that app in its desired desktop. Quite a disorienting effect.
I haven't tried the VM - it was a flight of fancy, and you've confirmed it as such. I just continue plodding along this track, enduring having to restore the open apps to their separate desktops.
The Plasma dialog on shutdown seems to be a fixture, indicating something really awry, but it's fleeting - I can't react quickly enough to inteerrrupt the shutdown and hold the message on-screen. I think I've glimpsed a possibility to generate a backtrace, which might give better insight to what's amiss.Comment
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