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    Gparted is Junk, Booting Goes Clunk, The Cat Sees My Funk

    I'm having a beast of a time with two things:
    1. My computer booting
    2. Gparted



    I was trying to format a 16-gig Sony thumb drive to exFAT at the command line (the only way you can I think) when I ran into problems. The only thing I was using Gparted for was to find out the Linux name of the Sony drive (for example /dev/sdc1 or whatever it is). Gparted worked at first and gave me the thumb drive's name. However, the commands to turn it into exFAT did not work. Here are the commands I use to format a drive to exFAT:

    sudo mkfs.exfat -n LABEL /dev/sdXn

    Replace “LABEL” with the label for your external hard disk and “/dev/sdXn” with the partition id that you recorded earlier.
    After running those commands, I started up Gparted to verify that the Sony drive was indeed now an exFAT one. That's when problems started happening like this one:


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    I would click on Ignore and another error message like that one would just come up. I couldn't get it to ever finish loading up and ended up having to kill it with Ctrl+Esc. I therefore completely uninstalled it and purged it and then reinstalled it according to the instructions at this link:

    http://installion.co.uk/ubuntu/saucy...all/index.html

    Then I reinstalled it in Synaptic and rebooted. However, the computer hung on the Lenovo splash screen. I cut power several times and it kept doing the same. I made sure no thumb drives were plugged in and no DVD was in that it was attempting to boot to. Finally I restarted and hit F2 to look at my boot order, and it looked like this:


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    WTF? Why are there two listings of Ubuntu in there and a Windows listing? I thought this thing was supposed to be set to simply boot to the hard drive where it would find Grub and give me the choice of Ubuntu or Windows. When I moved Windows to the top, the computer booting straight into Windows 7 without the choice of K/ubuntu. When I moved one of the Ubuntu listings to the top and hit F10 to save and exit, the thing did give me the choice of Ubuntu or Windows. I chose Ubuntu and booted into Kubuntu just fine.

    However, when I attempted to run Gparted, I ran into the same trouble as before. A reboot made the PC hang on the Lenovo splash screen as before. Then when I restarted and hit F2 to go to the BIOS, I put the other Ubuntu listing at the top, hit F10 and I was again given the menu for Ubuntu or Windows 7.

    It would seem I can only get the boot menu when I F2 into the BIOS, choose my boot order, and then F10 out. What's going on here? And why's Gparted giving me so much grief even after I completely purged it and reinstalled?

    My cat, Rosie, was sitting here the whole time wondering why I was so upset. She's not really relevant to the story, but she is awful cute, so I'm posting the photo I took of her just now anyway:

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    One more thing in case it's pertinent: In my previous install of Kubuntu, the Grub menu gave me the choice of Kubuntu with a K, several utilities, and Windows 7. In this most recent complete reinstall, (unlike before) it first says, “booting in insecure mode and then gives me the choice of Ubuntu with a U, no utilities, and Windows 7.
    Kubuntu 22.04 (desktop & laptop), Windows 7 &2K (via VirtualBox on desktop PC)
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    #2
    Is this a UEFI machine? Those mentions of "securecore" and "insecure mode" make me think so.
    I'd rather be locked out than locked in.

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      #3
      Also,

      I'd rather be locked out than locked in.

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        #4
        Yes, it is an UEFI machine. With my original Kubuntu / Win 7 install, I had to jump through major hoops to get Grub working. At the time I did not know of the rEFInd utility. I googled and googled until I found someone else with my exact model (a Lenovo Z570) who had done it before. This time around, I wiped my drive with Gparted first to start completely from scratch. Then my system restore DVDs that I made with Lenovo's utility was too stupid to recognize the drive's paritionless state and they would not work. Talk about crappy restore disks. What's someone supposed to do who completely replaces the hard drive or whose partitions get trashed by a very destructive virus. This time around I installed Windows 7 with a regular install disk and went from there. Then, after installing Kubuntu, I was suprised that no tricks at all were needed to get Grub working, but it started up with that "booting in insecure mode" message and I got "Ubuntu" on my menu, not "Kubuntu."

        It appears to be working now with no more BS, at least the Grub boot thing is. I haven't messed with Gparted again. Not going to do that till tomorrow. I don't need it annoying me tonight when I'm tired, and I've got the KDE Partition Editor anyway if I need it.

        Btw, adorable kitty cat.
        Kubuntu 22.04 (desktop & laptop), Windows 7 &2K (via VirtualBox on desktop PC)
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          #5
          Originally posted by Tom_ZeCat View Post
          but it started up with that "booting in insecure mode" message and I got "Ubuntu" on my menu, not "Kubuntu."

          .
          you have "secure boot" disabled in the UEFI ........................the grub menu always displays Ubuntu unless you change it .

          VINNY
          i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
          16GB RAM
          Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores

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            #6
            Yes, I've always had "Ubuntu" in my grub menu until I edit it. The distributor id in lsb_release -a is Ubuntu ... Kubuntu is just a flavour.

            Regarding formatting exfat - I didn't know that was a format open source software could reliably format yet. Being all Microsoft proprietary and licensed and stuff. Can you format it from Windows? Or use a better file system?

            Vinny ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, don't you have a cat?
            I'd rather be locked out than locked in.

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              #7
              GParted Live CD: Features
              Always a good idea to check this table, preface, footnotes and all:
              http://gparted.org/features.php
              An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                #8
                For exfat questions: start here

                Please Read Me

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SecretCode View Post
                  Yes, I've always had "Ubuntu" in my grub menu until I edit it. The distributor id in lsb_release -a is Ubuntu ... Kubuntu is just a flavour.

                  Regarding formatting exfat - I didn't know that was a format open source software could reliably format yet. Being all Microsoft proprietary and licensed and stuff. Can you format it from Windows? Or use a better file system?

                  Vinny ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, don't you have a cat?
                  Yup, you can format exFAT in *buntu (as I found out here: http://www.maketecheasier.com/format-exfat-in-ubuntu/). You need to first know the name of the drive, whether it's /dev/sde1 or whatever. The link suggests that you use fdisk, but you can also find out with Gparted or KDE Partition Editor. Then the terminal command is:

                  Code:
                  sudo fsck.exfat NAMEOFDRIVE
                  Example: sudo fsck.exfat /dev/sde1
                  Of course, exFAT has to be installed. I did successfully format this thumb drive to exFAT. I haven't found the ability to exFAT format integrated into any of the GUI partition tools unfortunately.

                  I changed all my thumb drives over to exFAT for a few reasons, including the ability to hold a file larger than 4 GB. I was able to successfully get this Sony drive formatted to exFAT.


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                  Last edited by Tom_ZeCat; Feb 15, 2015, 09:25 AM.
                  Kubuntu 22.04 (desktop & laptop), Windows 7 &2K (via VirtualBox on desktop PC)
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tom_ZeCat View Post
                    Yes, it is an UEFI machine.
                    Then those various entries in your boot list were most likely UEFI NVRAM variables that point to boot loaders. This command displays all NVRAM variables that contain boot material:
                    Code:
                    sudo efibootmgr -v

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                      #11
                      Great. Now I want to get an EFI system to play with the options (and learn. Of course). Thanks SteveRiley!

                      Also, do you have a cat?
                      I'd rather be locked out than locked in.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SecretCode View Post
                        Also, do you have a cat?
                        More than one, in fact.

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                          #13
                          Would they like to participate in this thread?
                          I'd rather be locked out than locked in.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
                            More than one, in fact.
                            I know what you were thinking, but the study doesn't say it scales (with more than one cat):
                            http://www.cnet.com/news/cat-people-...le-study-says/

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by SecretCode View Post
                              Would they like to participate in this thread?
                              Sherlock, just waking up from a nap in his favorite rocking chair.



                              Same guy as here, now grown up.

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