'Move to Trash' not deleting files

[papapenguin]

Hi, I downloaded the ubuntustudio *.iso file and decided not to use it (found this instead: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...kubuntu-studio)

Anyway, I right click on the file in Dolphin and select 'Move to Trash' and the file disappears...

...but only for a few seconds...

Then it reappears in the folder!

I've tried to be quick and 'Empty Trash', but even when it empties the trash it reappears...

I've even removed it in terminal

donald@donald-HP-Pavilion-tx2500-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo rm -r /home/donald/ubuntustudio-14.04-dvd-amd64.iso
donald@donald-HP-Pavilion-tx2500-Notebook-PC:~$ ls -l /home/donald
total 44
drwxrwxr-x  2 donald donald       4096 Sep 21  2009 BBC-POA
drwxr-xr-x  2 donald donald       4096 May 21 22:04 Desktop
drwxr-xr-x  6 donald donald       4096 May 27 17:10 Documents
drwxr-xr-x  2 donald donald       4096 May 23 11:48 Downloads
drwxrwxr-x  2 donald donald       4096 Jun  3  2013 Giorgio
drwxrwxr-x  2 donald donald       4096 Dec  8  2012 Isaac
drwxr-xr-x 25 donald donald       4096 May 22 22:41 Music
drwxr-xr-x  3 donald donald       4096 May 25 23:44 Pictures
drwxr-xr-x  2 donald donald       4096 May 21 22:04 Public
drwxr-xr-x  2 donald donald       4096 May 21 22:04 Templates
-rw-rw-r--  1 donald donald 2191294464 May 31 18:00 ubuntustudio-14.04-dvd-amd64.iso
drwxr-xr-x  2 donald donald       4096 May 21 22:04 Videos

and as you see, it is still there!

What am I missing here?

[Snowhog]

You can opt to 'delete without sending to trash' by highlighting the file and then holding the shift key and pressing delete. IF your trash folder is set to a size limit smaller than the file(s) you delete 'normally', the action can't be performed. My .

[SteveRiley]

What's the ouput of lsattr ~/donald/ubuntustudio-14.04-dvd-amd64.iso?

[papapenguin]

I believe the problem is solved (?!)

This is a laptop, and I was running on battery...I plugged it in, tried it and...viola...

onald@donald-HP-Pavilion-tx2500-Notebook-PC:~$ lsattr ~/donald/ubuntustudio-14.04-dvd-amd64.iso
lsattr: No such file or directory while trying to stat /home/donald/donald/ubuntustudio-14.04-dvd-amd64.iso
donald@donald-HP-Pavilion-tx2500-Notebook-PC:~$

would ACPI have something to do with this?

[SteveRiley]

Interesting... I rarely run on battery, so I'm not completely familiar with all the differences. KDE might configure the hard drive to delay writes for a few seconds, thus conserving power. A delete is a kind of write, so that would be placed on the queue until the power manager flushes the waiting operations. I feel like I'm guessing here, though.

[papapenguin]

you know, I just restarted and I got an error box saying that I was missing that file (which was a torrent, so was originally downloaded to another folder and was moved)...and it asked the torrent question 'do you want to delete the file and its torrent?'

so that may have been the problem as well...

I've had some strange similarities when moving files in Kmail...moving a file from the inbox to a folder, and then the file showing back up in the inbox...weird...

[SteveRiley]

Were you still seeding the file in KTorrent when you tried to delete it?

[papapenguin]

it could have been seeding...I didn't see the Ktorrent icon in the taskbar, but I wasn't really looking either...

It's possible...

[SteveRiley]

Hmm... if KTorrent still had file descriptors holding the file open for read, then that might explain why the file couldn't be deleted.

[papapenguin]

yes, and I had forgotten to 'remove torrent and its data' from Ktorrent before deleting it from the folder...after a day of thinking about it, I'm sure this is what happened

[frankus333]

Thanks Snowhog; very useful trick I was not aware of. Allowed me to delete an old partition backup file in one go.