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**Qqmike** · Jan 21, 2015, 09:57 AM

Read Vinny's posts here:
https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...l=1#post365356

Basically, you can use Muon Updater (not Muon Discover) to purge the proper files. Always keep at least the two latest kernel versions. Check your /boot directory to see what old kernels you have. Example, the latest kernel I have is vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic. Thus, I would keep the -44 and all its files, keep the -43 and all its files, but then purge -42, -41, etc., and all their files (see the link above for the relevant files).

**Qqmike** · Jan 21, 2015, 10:03 AM

Added: read the entire thread. E.g., note this:
https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...l=1#post365385

**vinnywright** · Jan 21, 2015, 02:33 PM

from just your update-grub output you only have 2 kernels , and you should keep them both ,,,, the initrd.img's are necessary for each kernel .

post the output of

Code:

ls /boot | grep vm

and wee will see for shure.

VINNY

**urdrwho5** · Jan 21, 2015, 03:10 PM

Well before getting back to this post I was reading some other posts in other places. A lot of people talked about using autoremove with purge. I ran it but it said something about not being able to run purge.

Then I came back to this forum and started reading.

I used Muon and it had some updates and then I saw the remove unnecessary packages. I wants to remove -3.13.0-44 but I don't want to remove that one, I want to keep the current 3.13.0-45 and the -3.13.0-44. I can't get it to stop wanting to remove 3.13.0-44.

Or ........................

If I remove 3.13.0-44 would that mean that I still have 13.10 (13.10) and 3.13.0-45 and therefore the 3.13.0.44 is the true unnecessary package?

Generating grub configuration file ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-45-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-45-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
Found Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition on /dev/sda1
Found Ubuntu 13.10 (13.10) on /dev/sdb1

Originally posted by Qqmike View Post

Read Vinny's posts here:
https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...l=1#post365356

Basically, you can use Muon Updater (not Muon Discover) to purge the proper files. Always keep at least the two latest kernel versions. Check your /boot directory to see what old kernels you have. Example, the latest kernel I have is vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic. Thus, I would keep the -44 and all its files, keep the -43 and all its files, but then purge -42, -41, etc., and all their files (see the link above for the relevant files).

**vinnywright** · Jan 21, 2015, 03:45 PM

you need to read post #4 once more ,,,,,,,do not remove anything.

the 13.10 you see is an install of Ubuntu/Kubuntu-13.10

along with the

Code:

ls /boot | grep vm

I asked you to post the output of please also post the output of

Code:

sudo parted -l

(that is a lower case L)

VINNY

**urdrwho5** · Jan 21, 2015, 04:17 PM

Went back and read it and now I get it.

Here ya go ------------------

ls /boot | grep vm
vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic
vmlinuz-3.13.0-45-generic

sudo parted -l
Model: ATA TOSHIBA MK6025GA (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 60.0GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 32.3kB 48.1GB 48.1GB primary ntfs boot
2 48.1GB 60.0GB 11.9GB extended lba
5 48.1GB 58.9GB 10.8GB logical ext3
6 58.9GB 60.0GB 1069MB logical linux-swap(v1)

Model: WD 5000AAV External (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 500GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 32.3kB 500GB 500GB primary fat32 lba

Originally posted by vinnywright View Post

you need to read post #4 once more ,,,,,,,do not remove anything.

the 13.10 you see is an install of Ubuntu/Kubuntu-13.10

along with the

Code:

ls /boot | grep vm

I asked you to post the output of please also post the output of

Code:

sudo parted -l

(that is a lower case L)

VINNY

**vinnywright** · Jan 21, 2015, 04:27 PM

OK you have only 2 kernels installed ,,,,,keep them both.

how did you get Ubuntu/Kubuntu-13-10 on the fat32 formated 500GB drive ??.....wubi

I see you only have 10GB for your 14.04 install on /sda5 ...........post the output of

Code:

df -h

we need to see how much space you have used.

VINNY

**urdrwho5** · Jan 21, 2015, 05:00 PM

I already know I don't have much space. If I have 14.04 why does my grub not show it

?

Anyhow here is the HD space

df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5 9.8G 8.5G 851M 92% /
none 4.0K 0 4.0K 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
udev 987M 12K 987M 1% /dev
tmpfs 201M 1.7M 199M 1% /run
none 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock
none 1001M 152K 1001M 1% /run/shm
none 100M 20K 100M 1% /run/user

Oh the 500 HD is an external storage drive.

Originally posted by vinnywright View Post

OK you have only 2 kernels installed ,,,,,keep them both.

how did you get Ubuntu/Kubuntu-13-10 on the fat32 formated 500GB drive ??.....wubi

I see you only have 10GB for your 14.04 install on /sda5 ...........post the output of

Code:

df -h

we need to see how much space you have used.

VINNY

**vinnywright** · Jan 21, 2015, 05:50 PM

post the output of

Code:

lsb_release -rcs

I assumed you had 14.04 because that is the sub-forum your posting in

and the kernel's you have are what we have in 14.04 right now.

your "update-grub" output is saying you have Ubuntu/Kubuntu-13.10 on /dev/sdb1 and your parted output has /dev/sdb1 as a 500GB fat32 formated drive .

+ your df -h output is telling the linux you are running now is on /dev/sda5

the command above will tell the version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu you are running.

allso post the output of

Code:

cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg

and please , please wrap that output in [CODE] tags ,,,,,,, click the # icon in the text helper icons above the text box you are replying in and it will insert them for you ,,,, copy and past the output between the.................................. CODE] [/CODE ,,,,,,, I left off the [ and ] so you could see them

VINNY

**urdrwho5** · Jan 21, 2015, 06:13 PM

Ok here ya go. The first one does show 14.04 but my Grub doesn't show it. Hm?

lsb_release -rcs
14.04

Code:

cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
  set have_grubenv=true
  load_env
fi
if [ "${next_entry}" ] ; then
   set default="${next_entry}"
   set next_entry=
   save_env next_entry
   set boot_once=true
else
   set default="0"
fi

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
  menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
  menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then                                                                                                                                                                                
  set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"                                                                                                                                                                           
  save_env saved_entry                                                                                                                                                                                            
  set prev_saved_entry=                                                                                                                                                                                           
  save_env prev_saved_entry                                                                                                                                                                                       
  set boot_once=true                                                                                                                                                                                              
fi                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
function savedefault {                                                                                                                                                                                            
  if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then                                                                                                                                                                                  
    saved_entry="${chosen}"                                                                                                                                                                                       
    save_env saved_entry
  fi
}
function recordfail {
  set recordfail=1
  if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
}
function load_video {
  if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
    insmod all_video
  else
    insmod efi_gop
    insmod efi_uga
    insmod ieee1275_fb
    insmod vbe
    insmod vga
    insmod video_bochs
    insmod video_cirrus
  fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
   font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos5'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5  e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
fi
    font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
  set gfxmode=1280x800
  load_video
  insmod gfxterm
  set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
  set lang=en_US
  insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
  set timeout=-1
else
  if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
    set timeout_style=menu
    set timeout=10
  # Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
  # unavailable.
  else
    set timeout=10
  fi
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
#set_background_image "images/tile.png";

set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
if background_color 0,0,0; then
  clear
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux_proxy ###
menuentry "Ubuntu" --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9' {
recordfail
        load_video
        gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
        insmod gzio
        insmod part_msdos
        insmod ext2
        set root='hd0,msdos5'
        if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5  e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
        else
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
        fi
        linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-45-generic root=UUID=e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9 ro acpi_backlight=vendor  quiet splash $vt_handoff
        initrd  /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-45-generic
}
submenu "Advanced options for Ubuntu"{
menuentry "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-45-generic" --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.13.0-45-generic-advanced-e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9' {
        recordfail
                load_video
                gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
                insmod gzio
                insmod part_msdos
                insmod ext2
                set root='hd0,msdos5'
                if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
                  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5  e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
                else
                  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
                fi
                echo    'Loading Linux 3.13.0-45-generic ...'
                linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-45-generic root=UUID=e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9 ro acpi_backlight=vendor  quiet splash $vt_handoff
                echo    'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
                initrd  /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-45-generic
}
menuentry "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-45-generic (recovery mode)" --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.13.0-45-generic-recovery-e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9' {
        recordfail
                load_video
                insmod gzio
                insmod part_msdos
                insmod ext2
                set root='hd0,msdos5'
                if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
                  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5  e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
                else
                  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
                fi
                echo    'Loading Linux 3.13.0-45-generic ...'
                linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-45-generic root=UUID=e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9 ro recovery nomodeset acpi_backlight=vendor
                echo    'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
                initrd  /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-45-generic
}
menuentry "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-44-generic" --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.13.0-44-generic-advanced-e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9' {
        recordfail
                load_video
                gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
                insmod gzio
                insmod part_msdos
                insmod ext2
                set root='hd0,msdos5'
                if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
                  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5  e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
                else
                  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
                fi
                echo    'Loading Linux 3.13.0-44-generic ...'
                linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic root=UUID=e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9 ro acpi_backlight=vendor  quiet splash $vt_handoff
                echo    'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
                initrd  /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic
}
menuentry "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-44-generic (recovery mode)" --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.13.0-44-generic-recovery-e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9' {
        recordfail
                load_video
                insmod gzio
                insmod part_msdos
                insmod ext2
                set root='hd0,msdos5'
                if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
                  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5  e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
                else
                  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
                fi
                echo    'Loading Linux 3.13.0-44-generic ...'
                linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic root=UUID=e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9 ro recovery nomodeset acpi_backlight=vendor
                echo    'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
                initrd  /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic
}
}
function gfxmode {
        set gfxpayload="${1}"
        if [ "${1}" = "keep" ]; then
                set vt_handoff=vt.handoff=7
        else
                set vt_handoff=
        fi
}
if [ "${recordfail}" != 1 ]; then
  if [ -e ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt ]; then
    if hwmatch ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt 3; then
      if [ ${match} = 0 ]; then
        set linux_gfx_mode=keep
      else
        set linux_gfx_mode=text
      fi
    else
      set linux_gfx_mode=text
    fi
  else
    set linux_gfx_mode=keep
  fi
else
  set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
export linux_gfx_mode

### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux_proxy ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+)' {
        insmod part_msdos
        insmod ext2
        set root='hd0,msdos5'
        if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5  e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
        else
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
        fi
        knetbsd /boot/memtest86+.elf
}
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)' {
        insmod part_msdos
        insmod ext2
        set root='hd0,msdos5'
        if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5  e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
        else
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root e22dbcda-3528-4d95-91e2-8cba9e5ab5d9
        fi
        linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry 'Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (on /dev/sda1)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-01CF3337A1FC7B50' {
        insmod part_msdos
        insmod ntfs
        set root='hd0,msdos1'
        if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  01CF3337A1FC7B50
        else
          search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 01CF3337A1FC7B50
        fi
        parttool ${root} hidden-
        drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
        chainloader +1
}

set timeout_style=menu
if [ "${timeout}" = 0 ]; then
  set timeout=10
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f  ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
  source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f  $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
  source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###

Originally posted by vinnywright View Post

post the output of

Code:

lsb_release -rcs

I assumed you had 14.04 because that is the sub-forum your posting in

and the kernel's you have are what we have in 14.04 right now.

your "update-grub" output is saying you have Ubuntu/Kubuntu-13.10 on /dev/sdb1 and your parted output has /dev/sdb1 as a 500GB fat32 formated drive .

+ your df -h output is telling the linux you are running now is on /dev/sda5

the command above will tell the version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu you are running.

allso post the output of

Code:

cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg

and please , please wrap that output in [CODE] tags ,,,,,,, click the # icon in the text helper icons above the text box you are replying in and it will insert them for you ,,,, copy and past the output between the.................................. CODE] [/CODE ,,,,,,, I left off the [ and ] so you could see them

VINNY

**vinnywright** · Jan 21, 2015, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by urdrwho5 View Post

Ok here ya go. The first one does show 14.04 but my Grub doesn't show it. Hm?

lsb_release -rcs
14.04

dose it not show it (14.04)when you boot >grub menu> chose wether to boot into 14.04 or XP ,,,,,,,,,,,or did you set things to auto boot striate to 14.04

grub.cfg (what makes your grub menu) dose not show a 13.10 entry ,,,strange since your update grub did .

dose the box boot striate to Kubuntu with out stopping at the grub menu ?

if so when you reboot you can hold down or keep taping the Shift key right after pressing the power button to force it to show ,,,,,,,

VINNY

PS:when you say grub dosent show it (14.04 ) that is because you dont see the version of Linux you are on when running "update-grub" (just the kernels) when you see the found 13.10 and found XP that is the OS-prober part of grub ,,,,,,,,finding those things

**urdrwho5** · Jan 21, 2015, 08:16 PM

Boot gives me options

Several Ubuntu options such as recover or something like that, boot to two different 13 somethings and boot to XP. There is no option to boot to 14.04.

Originally posted by vinnywright View Post

dose it not show it (14.04)when you boot >grub menu> chose wether to boot into 14.04 or XP ,,,,,,,,,,,or did you set things to auto boot striate to 14.04

grub.cfg (what makes your grub menu) dose not show a 13.10 entry ,,,strange since your update grub did .

dose the box boot striate to Kubuntu with out stopping at the grub menu ?

if so when you reboot you can hold down or keep taping the Shift key right after pressing the power button to force it to show ,,,,,,,

VINNY

PS:when you say grub dosent show it (14.04 ) that is because you dont see the version of Linux you are on when running "update-grub" (just the kernels) when you see the found 13.10 and found XP that is the OS-prober part of grub ,,,,,,,,finding those things

**urdrwho5** · Jan 22, 2015, 07:48 AM

For a while I was having problems with reboot and I would need to do it from the terminal. Then there were times I would get an odd desktop after booting. From top to bottom I would have a 2 inch black banner on the right side.

I would then boot into recovery and hit repackage, reboot and normally it would then show a normal desktop. Now the previous protocol is not working and I have to choose resume boot in the recovery mode. I have a full screen but drivers stink. Fonts are fuzzy and resolution is not normal. Display is set to its usual 1024 X 768.

I can use the system, I can probably get accustomed to the system but in a way it ticks me off. I've been under the wrong impression that Linux stuff is darn near bullet proof but during my learning curve it can crack. Unlike Win, once it cracks there is no restore mode.

Windows XP that is still on this laptop, that has been on for @ 13 years, still boots and looks perfect. I may need to go back to XP.

UPDATE

I ran recovery again and booted into the desktop with the unclear fonts.......also somewhere along the line in recovery I saw a LOT of error messages and those messages had to do with different PPA's
Once booted I logged in and out a few times and then rebooted.

Rebooted
I ran in recovery mode again using Fdisk
Restarted --- rebooted
Restarted and now I have the normal looking desktop - correct looking fonts

Originally posted by urdrwho5 View Post

Boot gives me options

Several Ubuntu options such as recover or something like that, boot to two different 13 somethings and boot to XP. There is no option to boot to 14.04.

**Qqmike** · Jan 22, 2015, 09:05 AM

Hope that gets you going OK, time will tell, huh?

Unlike Win, once it cracks there is no restore mode

Windows does have various reset/restore modes; e.g., on laptops, too. Some can take time. Linux, in a sense, has a quick restore mode: simply reinstall it! Piece of cake, and relatively quick. Reconfiguring takes time, but that is a sunk cost in both Win and Linux.

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