KompoZer menus trashed

[Tom_ZeCat]

KompoZer was working great. It's supposed to be the best WYSIWYG HTML editor for Linux. At first it seemed that way when I first installed it about a month or two ago. Now it's menus are trashed. I'll show you what they look like in screen shots.

I tried doing a complete uninstall in the Synaptic Package Manager. Then I did a complete reinstall from the command line with these instructions:
http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kom...4-12-10-12-04/

No luck. The program reinstalled, but I still have the trashed menu problems. I disabled wobbly windows, but it's still messed up.

Any ideas?


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[Snowhog]

Hmm. The KompoZer website "Latest News" shows the last news post was over four years ago! You can try contacting the developers on IRC at http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/irc/

[Goeroeboeroe]

Kompozer is dead. It's not developed anymore. It used to be the best wysiwyg-editor, years ago. It's even not in the repos anymore. Personally I really don't understand why developers leave this old rubbish on their site. They should remove Kompozer or at least put a very big warning it's way too old.
In this thread you can read a lot more about it, and also about a wysiwyg-editro that's up-to-date (bluegriffon):
https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...ht=bluegriffon

[Tom_ZeCat]

Kompozer is dead. It's not developed anymore. It used to be the best wysiwyg-editor, years ago. It's even not in the repos anymore. Personally I really don't understand why developers leave this old rubbish on their site. They should remove Kompozer or at least put a very big warning it's way too old.
In this thread you can read a lot more about it, and also about a wysiwyg-editro that's up-to-date (bluegriffon):
https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...ht=bluegriffon

Blue Giffron doesn't run under Kubuntu. I installed it and it comes up, but crashes as soon as you try to pull down a menu. I found another one named Amaya that seems stable and decent so far and even had a debian package. I can also run an old copy of Dreamweaver under WINE.

I agree with you that I wish they would put warnings on this stuff that it's way too old. Once my programming skills have become better, maybe I'll see if I can fix up KompoZer. It's probably some minor little problem that's killing it's menus.

[Snowhog]

Just went to the KompoZer Downloads page and there:

KompoZer 0.7 langpacks are available here.
21 supported languages!

This version is not recommended for Mac Intel users: KompoZer 0.7 is only available as a PPC build for this platform.


Warning: this version does NOT work with recent GNU/Linux distros.

KompoZer 0.7 is not compatible with GTK ≥ 2.14 — expect crashes. If you’re using a Linux distro that ships KompoZer 0.7.10 with GTK ≥ 2.14, please inform the package maintainers about this.

That, for the 0.7 version. The "latest" version: 0.8b3 has no such warning, but it too, is probably incompatible with GTK ≥ 2.14.

[Tom_ZeCat]

Just went to the KompoZer Downloads page and there:

That, for the 0.7 version. The "latest" version: 0.8b3 has no such warning, but it too, is probably incompatible with GTK ≥ 2.14.

I did leave a message on that the kompozer sorgeforge irc link about it not working, but it seems pretty obvious that it's unlikely to get fixed. The menus were working fine until I upgraded to Kubuntu 14.04. I did notice before then that some features would grey out in their menus without good reason and I would have to restart the program to get them back. The program does still run and I can choose features if I can navigate through those mucked up menus, but that's too much trouble. This Amaya program seems okay so far. Maybe it will work out. Otherwise I guess I can use Dreamweaver under WINE. I also have one named Bluefish, but it's not WYSIWYG. I also don't like how it hijacks my metas. But it is good for when I need to edit code directly.

[dtr]

Have you tried SeaMonkey the self-described all-in-one internet application suite, I don't think it's in the repositories, but is easy enough to download at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ and run. It's still actively maintained and the most recent update was today, June 16, 2014.

Since my Kubuntu is 64bit, I needed to install libdbus-glib-1-2:i386 Here's a cheesy screenshot of a webpage I made for you.

[Goeroeboeroe]

SeaMonkey is updated. But Composer, the build-in wysiwyg-editor, is not. It's even older then nvu.
BlueGriffon is really the only up-to-date wysiwyg-editor.
If you make a pretty simple page with only images, text, links, amaya can be okay too. Other older editors had lots of errors against standards, or 'hacks' to let behave browsers well. That's causing more and more problems in modern browsers. Amaya is older too, but since it's made by w3c at least it's working by the standards, so you won't have too many problems in modern browsers. And since Amaya only uses html 4.01/css2, there's no problem with concept standards changing.

[Tom_ZeCat]

Have you tried SeaMonkey the self-described all-in-one internet application suite, I don't think it's in the repositories, but is easy enough to download at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ and run. It's still actively maintained and the most recent update was today, June 16, 2014.

Since my Kubuntu is 64bit, I needed to install libdbus-glib-1-2:i386 Here's a cheesy screenshot of a webpage I made for you.
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I downloaded SeaMonkey, but have yet to figure out how to install it. What I downloaded was not a Debian package. Is there such a package available? I think what I got is something you have to compile. If I have to compile things thing, I haven't delved into how to do that yet. Or is there a PPA I can install so that I can do a command line install?

SeaMonkey is updated. But Composer, the build-in wysiwyg-editor, is not. It's even older then nvu.
BlueGriffon is really the only up-to-date wysiwyg-editor.
If you make a pretty simple page with only images, text, links, amaya can be okay too. Other older editors had lots of errors against standards, or 'hacks' to let behave browsers well. That's causing more and more problems in modern browsers. Amaya is older too, but since it's made by w3c at least it's working by the standards, so you won't have too many problems in modern browsers. And since Amaya only uses html 4.01/css2, there's no problem with concept standards changing.

Amaya looks nice, but I did notice it's not recognizing the background image that I put in when using KompoZer. For now I'm using Dreamweaver under WINE. I might use Amaya if I can figure out how to do the background image in it. It looks like KompoZer or Dreamweaver used CSS styles to do it and that Amaya must not recognize those. Here's the code:

 <style type="text/css">
	<!--
		@page { margin: 1in }
		p { margin-bottom: 0.08in }
body {
	background-image: url(images/nth_theme_business_classic_brown_note_bg.gif);
}

Of course at this point it would be a ton of work to edit out all those CSS styles. For now it's simpler to just use Dreamweaver.

[Goeroeboeroe]

If you can I think it's better to use Dreamweaver instead of Kompozer.
The code you write is exactly the kind of problems you're running into. I guess it's code made by Kompozer, The <!-- hasn't been used for years. It's for very old browsers (even before Internet Explorer 6) to hide css styles for those browsers. There's a --> Missing at the end, by the way.
This is not standard code and may give problems in browsers like Amaya (and other modern browsers). It's the kind of hack I meant that used to be okay years ago, but not anymore.
I think if you remove the <!-- (and possibly the -->) it's working.
Amaya is actually meant to try standard code, and since background-image is existing for a very long time, Amaya has to recognize that.
Pfff, I see now that the value used is in. That's allowed, but it's really not good. It's normally only used for printing, and even than pt is almost always better. These values are not used anymore and will probably give problems on mobile browsers.
I don't understand the @page rule. That's a rule to give margins on every side of the page. Again: it's allowed, but it's meant to be used for printing, not on screen.

Well, you gave only three lines of code. I guess you'll understand what I mean if I say using old editors is asking for problems

(If you want me to have a real good look at your code to see why Amaya doesn't recognize it, you can put a copy of all your code here.)

[Tom_ZeCat]

Okay, I'll show you the code for a whole page here. Pretty much every page, except for the index, has the same code. If you want to see the site, it's here:

http://mrzecat.myartsonline.com/

My copy of Dreamweaver is also kind of old. For WINE sometimes that's a good thing. It's Dreamweaver 8. The credits say copyright 1997-2005.

For KompoZer, did they simply take Netscape Composer and port the code to Linux? NC is ancient. I used to use it back in 1997.

Here's my code. It says it was generated by Bluefish, but that's BS. I created it with KompoZer. I made a few minor changes with Bluefish, and it hijacked my metas.

The code:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<html><head>
  
  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
  <title>Andrew, Catherine et la voyante</title>

  
  
  <meta name="generator" content="Bluefish 2.2.4" >

  
  <meta name="author" content="Tommy" >

  
  <meta name="created" content="20140211;203210562703717">

  
  <meta name="changedby" content="Tom ">

  
  <meta name="changed" content="20140414;51718659802208">

  
  <style type="text/css">
	<!--
		@page { margin: 1in }
		p { margin-bottom: 0.08in }
		a:link { so-language: zxx }
body {
	background-image: url(images/nth_theme_business_classic_brown_note_bg.gif);
}
	-->
	</style>
</head><body style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: white;" alink="#000099" link="#000099" vlink="#990099"><body dir="ltr" lang="fr-FR">
<table style="text-align: left; width: 1026px; height: 88px;" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2">

  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 282px;"><br>
      </td>
      <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 464px;"><br>
      </td>
      <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 252px;"><br>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 282px;"><br>
      </td>
      <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 453px; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; background-color: white;">
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-align: center;">Andrew,
Catherine et la voyante</p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Andrew
et Catherine sont en train de
faire un petit voyage en
amoureux sur un bateau
de croisière nommé RMS Knutschmichfest. En ce moment, ils sont à
Cozumel une petite île située à l'est de la
côte du
Mexique. Catherine prend un bain de soleil à la plage. Andrew,
coiffé d'un chapeau qui
dit «&nbsp;RMS
Knutschmichfest&nbsp;» et
d'une
chemise qui dit «&nbsp;J'aime ma chérie&nbsp;»,
explore la ville. Il trouve une petite boutique mystérieuse. Il y
entre. Il voit une femme très
secrète. Elle porte un foulard en
soie de couleur
lavande, un turban et
plusieurs chaînes en or.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Bonjour. Bienvenue. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Bonjour. C'est
une boutique intéressante. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Merci. Je peux vous aider&nbsp;? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non, merci. J'aimerais
juste
regarder. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: D'accord. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Andrew
regarde des bibelots aux
couleurs criardes. Il
trouve une statue d'un homme primitif tenant une lance, qui regarde
un dinosaure bouche bée.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Ça coûte combien&nbsp;? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Trois
cent quatre-vingt-quinze
pesos. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Andrew
n'est pas impressionné.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Ah ah. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Il
trouve une
boule de cristal.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Oh, très bien. Combien ça coûte&nbsp;? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Ce
n'est pas à vendre. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Il
paraît
très déçu.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: C'est dommage. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Une
chose pareille a trop de pouvoirs pour une personne ordinaire. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Ah bon&nbsp;? J'ai
toujours voulu posséder
une telle chose comme ça. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Ça
serait trop dangereux. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Ah ah. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Une
chose comme ça est conçue seulement pour ceux qui possèdent un don
psychique. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Ah ah. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: C'est
vrai. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Laissez-moi deviner. Vous pratiquez la voyance
psychique, n'est-ce pas ? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Oui, en
effet. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Ah ah. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Oui, je
devine
beaucoup de chose sur vous. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Elle
met ses mains sur
la boule de cristal.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Vous
avez voyagé jusqu'ici en bateau, non ? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Oui, c'est vrai. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Vous
êtes ici avec quelqu'un de
très important pour
vous. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Oui, c'est vrai. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Son
prénom commence par la lettre A. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: B. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: C. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Oui, c'est vrai. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Il
est très impressionné.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Elle
n'est pas votre épouse, pas encore. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: C'est vrai. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Elle s'appelle Claire. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Claudia. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Attendez … je sens … je sens … Christina. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Candice. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Carla. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Charlotte. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Attendez … Oh, le monde spirituel … je sens …
je sens … Christa. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Christine. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Colleen. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Cynthia. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Cherylin.</p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Oh …
brisez
l'ingérence spirituelle …
je sens … je sens … je sens … Clarice. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Cora. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Cleopatra. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Non. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Catherine. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Oui, c'est vrai. Comment est-ce que vous
saviez
ça&nbsp;? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Je l'ai
senti. Je l'ai senti au
début mais il y avait
l'ingérence spirituelle. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Je comprends. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Elle
vient
des
États-Unis. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Oui, c'est vrai. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Il
est très impressionné.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Vous en savez
beaucoup sur
moi. Comment avez-vous
appris à faire ça&nbsp;? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: C'est un
talent, on est né avec. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Ah bon. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Je sens
que vous êtes une personne unique. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Ma
mère dit toujours ça. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: C'est
vrai. Je sens que
vous êtes une personne avec
beaucoup de talent. Vous êtes une personne très
spirituelle. Venez ici,
s'il vous plaît. Normalement,
je ne permets pas qu'on touche à cette boule mais vous êtes une
personne très spirituelle. Cette
boule est unique. Il n'y
en a qu'une seule au monde. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Ouah. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Mettez
vos mains sur la boule. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Vous êtes sûre
? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Oui. Je
rencontre très rarement une personne d'aussi
spirituelle que vous. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Avec
hésitation, il met ses
mains sur la boule.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Qu'est-ce
que vous
sentez&nbsp;? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: C'est froid. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Si, si&nbsp;! L'hiver
dernier,
il y avait un ouragan. Il
faisait très froid. Quel
talent&nbsp;! </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Vraiment&nbsp;? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Que
ressentez-vous d'autre?</p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: J'ai faim. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Ouah&nbsp;! Quel
talent&nbsp;! Pendant
l'ouragan nous
n'avions pas assez de nourriture. Je
suis très impressionné par
votre talent et
votre spiritualité. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Je ne sais pas comment
j’aurais pu le savoir. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: C'est ce
que pensent toujours les personnes
spirituelles. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Je ne savais pas que
j'avais
ce talent. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Les gens
de talent sont toujours si
modestes. Écoutez. Vous
devriez retourner chez
vous avec cette boule. Vous ferez
des
choses incroyable
avec elle. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Et vous, qu'est-ce
que vous
ferez&nbsp;? Il n'y a
qu'une seule comme celle-ci dans le monde. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Je suis
une vieille femme. Je
dois passer la flamme. J'ai
toujours su que je rencontrerais quelqu'un plus talentueux que moi. La
boule
doit rester
avec vous. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Avec
moi&nbsp;? Incroyable. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Pour
seulement soixante-six mille pesos. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Oh la, c'est cher. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: C'est
bon marché en comparaison des
choses incroyables
que vous allez
faire avec. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Andrew
fait des calculs sur
son portable.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: C'est presque cinq
mille dollars. Je voudrais cette boule
mais je n'ai pas assez
d'argent. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Avez-vous
une carte de crédit&nbsp;? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Oui, mais c'est
seulement en cas d'urgence et elle a une limite de dépense
de mille cinq cents
dollars. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Madame
Carterista fait des
conversions dans son
portable.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Ça fait
presque vingt
mille pesos. Je crois que
la providence divine a voulu que vous ayez cette boule de cristal. Je
vais vous
faire une bonne affaire. Vingt mille pesos …
seulement pour vous. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: Heu … heu
… il n'y en a qu'une
seule au monde, n'est-ce pas ? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Oui. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Andrew
: C'est en cas d'urgence,
bien sûr … d'accord, je
la prends. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Merveilleux. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Andrew
achète la boule
et part. Madame
Carterista va chercher une boîte à l'arrière salle, sur laquelle
il est inscrit
: « fabriqué
en Chine ». Elle
l'ouvre et sort une boule de cristal identique à l'autre, puis
l'expose. Elle
compose un numéro sur son portable.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Allô,
15 jusqu'à présent. On
a besoin de faire
un autre commande. Très bien. Merci. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(Elle
raccroche le téléphone. Catherine
entre et
remarque aussitôt la boule
de cristal.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Catherine
: Oh, cette boule
de cristal
est si belle&nbsp;! </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Oui. Il
n'y en a qu'une seule au monde.</p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Catherine
: Incroyable. C’est
combien ? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista&nbsp;: Elle
n'est pas à vendre. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Catherine
: Zut. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Madame
Carterista: Je sens que
vous êtes une personne très spirituelle. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-align: center;">Fin</p>
      <br>
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      <hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;">
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-align: center;"><br>
      </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in; page-break-before: always; text-align: center;" lang="en-US">Andrew, Catherine, and the
Psychic</p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(Andrew
and Catherine are taking a little love voyage on a cruise ship named
RMS Knutschmichfest. At the moment they're on Cozumel, a little
island off the east coast of Mexico. Catherine is sunbathing on the
beach. Andrew, wearing a hat that says “RMS Knutschmichfest” and
a shirt that reads “I love my sweetie,” explores the town. He
finds a little mysterious shop. He enters it. He sees a very
esoteric woman. She's wearing lavender silk scarves and a turban and
numerous gold chains.)</p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Hello. Welcome. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Hello. This is a very
interesting shop here. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Thank you. Can I help you? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No, thank you. I just
want to browse. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Okay. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(Andrew
looks at some gaudy trinkets. He
finds a statue of a primitive man looking at a dinosaur mouth agape
and holding a spear.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
How much is this? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Three hundred
ninety-five pesos. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(Andrew
is not impressed.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Mmm
hmm. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(He
finds a crystal ball.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Oh, very nice. How much is this? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: That's not for
sale. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(He
looks disappointed.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
That's a shame. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Such a thing
is too powerful for the average person. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Really? I've always
wanted to own such a thing. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: That would be
too dangerous. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Mmm hmm. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Such a thing
is only for experienced psychics.</p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Mmm hmm. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: It's true. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Let me guess. You're the experienced psychic, aren't you? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Yes, that's me. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Mmm hmm. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Yes, I sense a lot from you. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(She
puts her hands on the crystal ball.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: You came here
by ship, didn't you? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Yes, that's true. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: You're here
with someone important to you. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Yes, that's true. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Her name
starts with the letter A. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: B. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: C. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Yes, that's true. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(He's
very impressed.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: She's not your wife, not yet. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
That's true. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Her name is
Claire. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Claudia. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Wait … I
sense … I sense … Christina. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Candice. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Carla. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Charlotte. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Wait … Oh,
spiritual world … I sense … I sense … Christa. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Christine. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Colleen. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Cynthia. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Cherylin. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Oh … break
the spiritual interference .. I sense … I sense … I sense …
Clarice. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Cora. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Cleopatra. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
No. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Catherine. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Yes, that's
true. How did you know
that? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: I sensed it. I sensed it the first time, but there was
spiritual interference. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
I understand. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: She's from the
United States. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Yes, that's true.</p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(He's
very impressed.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
You know a lot about me. How
did you learn to do that? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: It's a talent you're born with. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
I see. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: I sense that
you're a unique person. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
My mom always says that. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: It's true. I
sense that you're a very talented person. You're
a very spiritual person. Come
here, please. I normally
don't allow anyone to touch this ball, but you're a very spiritual
person. This ball is
unique. It's the only one
like it in the world. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Wow. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Put your hands
on the ball. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Are you sure? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Yes. I rarely
meet a person as spiritual as you. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(Hesitantly
he puts his hands on the ball.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: What do you sense? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
It's cold. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Why, yes! Last winter there was a
hurricane. It was very cold. What talent! </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Really? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: What else do
you sense? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
I'm hungry. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Wow! What talent! During
the hurricane we did not have enough food. I'm
very impressed by your talent, your spirituality. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
I don't know how I knew
that. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: That's how it always is with spiritual people. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
I didn't know that I had
this talent. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Talented
people are always so modest. Listen. You should return home with this
ball. You
would do amazing things with it. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
What will you do? It's
the only one like it in the world. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: I'm an old
woman. I need to pass the
torch. I've always known I
would meet someone more talented than myself. The
ball should be with you. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
With me? Incredible. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: For only sixty-six thousand pesos. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Oh, wow, that's expensive. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: It's cheap when you compare it to the incredible things
you'll do with it. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(Andrew
calculates something on his cell.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
That's almost five
thousand dollars. I want
that ball, but I don't have enough money. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Do you have a
credit card? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Yes, but it's only for
emergencies, and it has a credit limit of fifteen
hundred dollars. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(Madame
Carterista calculates
something on her cell.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: That's
approximately twenty thousand pesos. I
know it's divine providence that you get that ball. I'm
going to make a great deal for
you. Twenty thousand
pesos … only for you. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
Um … um … it's
the only one of its kind in the world, isn't it? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: It is. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Andrew:
This is an emergency, of
course … okay, I'll take it. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Wonderful. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(Andrew
buys the ball and leaves. Madame Carterista gets
a box from the back room upon which it says, “Made in China.” She opens
it and gets out
a crystal ball identical to the other one and displays it. She
dials a number on her cell.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Hello, 15 so
far today. We need to
order another shipment. Very
well. Thank you. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">(She
hangs up the telephone. Catherine
enters and immediately notices the crystal ball.) </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Catherine:
Oh, this crystal ball is beautiful! </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: Yes. It's the only one like it in the world. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Catherine:
Incredible. What's its
price? </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: It's not for sale. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Catherine:
Shoot. </p>
      <p style="margin-bottom: 0in;" lang="en-US">Madame
Carterista: I sense that you're a very spiritual person. </p>
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[Goeroeboeroe]

Hey, I wrote a reply that I would look at it tonight. But it's gone. Guess i clicked on the wrong button. Anyway, I've just installed Amaya and start looking.

[Goeroeboeroe]

That almost drove me mad. The background-image, I mean. I thought it was the <!-- and -->, because following the standard the code inside this tags is to be completely ignored, and since Amaya is following standards... This was a trick browser makers used just to prevent old browsers crashing.
But in the end it's a bug in Amaya. I stole your original background-image from your site, gnagnanga.
In every browser it's working okay. Only not in Amaya. In Amaya the lowest pixel of a background-image just disappears. That's the pixel that makes your 'line'. If you put an extra pixel under the image, making it 18 px high, it works in Amaya. Of course you now have a problem in every other browser.

I had a look at you site and the code you sent me in a few browsers on iOS, Android, Windows, Linux and OSX (not in every possibly browser). First some general remarks. This code looks more or less the same in every browser. Since it is only text and links, I don't expect too many problems. Some pages have a doctype of html strict and on that pages in some browsers the <font> tag in the html is ingnored (it's against the standard), so some text is bigger then it should be.
But you can read everything and every link is working.

But.

If you use this code and there's somewhere an error, it's impossible to change it by hand. Or you have to be a real masochist. There's almost only inline-css instead of one external file. On every <p> there's a completely useless margin-bottom=0in. Useless, because it removes only the bottom-margin. But a <p> has a top-margin too, that's exactly as big as the bottom-margin (unless you change it). Those two margins overlap. If you only remove one of the two, there's no visual difference. But if you want to change the bottom-margin, you better first buy some whisky and tranquilizers. Because you have to change that by hand on EVERY <p>. And there are a lot of <p>'s.
On all kind of places other inline-css or deprecated html-tags are inserted. That's why it's almost impossible to correct something by hand. If I change the font, but somewhere in your html there's a font-change too, it's very hard to control that. And if I change that font-change, does that influence other things? Etc. Almost impossible.

There's another problem. If you use this code, you can't use any other wysiwyg-editor (as far as I know). Every editor has it's own way of coding. Another editor 'sees' all these in's (inches) and thinks: "I don't know what these do, so better leave them alone." And may put another inline-css behind it, overruling the first inline-css and doubling your inline-css. Or it destroys it. So if you use this code (or any other bad quality code) you're hooked on the editor you made the code with.

I had no experience with Amaya. I think you can use that for the kind of site you have. I played a bit with it, and it seems to make pretty good code, without deprecated tags etc.. I guess it's possible to use this code in any other good editor (no guarantee) and at least it's probably possible to edit the code by hand, if necessary.
One remark if you want to use Amaya: you should choose for html as doctype ('document profile' it's called in dutch) and for utf-8 as chartype (text encoding it's called in Dutch). Those translators translate standard English names in Dutch too, grumble, so I don't know how Amaya calls it in English.
xhtml, the other doctype, is dead. And since Amaya is working by the standards, using xhtml gives really big problems in IE 9 (or 10) and before, because IE had it's own definition of xhtml. If you don't use utf-8 there's a very big chance (a lot of) your French diacritics change in square boxes or something that looks like Chinese on some computers.

Well, that's about it. If BlueGriffon is not working, I think Amaya may be an alternative. But only for sites that use only text, images, links, etc., not for more complicated sites.

I have no experience with Wordpress either, but did you think about using Wordpress?
As far as I know BlueGriffon is supposed to work on Kubuntu. Maybe there's somewhere a forum you can ask about the crashing menus? Or some kind soul here (I'm no linux expert at all...).

[Tom_ZeCat]

That almost drove me mad. The background-image, I mean. I thought it was the <!-- and -->, because following the standard the code inside this tags is to be completely ignored, and since Amaya is following standards... This was a trick browser makers used just to prevent old browsers crashing.
But in the end it's a bug in Amaya. I stole your original background-image from your site, gnagnanga.
In every browser it's working okay. Only not in Amaya. In Amaya the lowest pixel of a background-image just disappears. That's the pixel that makes your 'line'. If you put an extra pixel under the image, making it 18 px high, it works in Amaya. Of course you now have a problem in every other browser.

I had a look at you site and the code you sent me in a few browsers on iOS, Android, Windows, Linux and OSX (not in every possibly browser). First some general remarks. This code looks more or less the same in every browser. Since it is only text and links, I don't expect too many problems. Some pages have a doctype of html strict and on that pages in some browsers the <font> tag in the html is ingnored (it's against the standard), so some text is bigger then it should be.
But you can read everything and every link is working.

But.

If you use this code and there's somewhere an error, it's impossible to change it by hand. Or you have to be a real masochist. There's almost only inline-css instead of one external file. On every <p> there's a completely useless margin-bottom=0in. Useless, because it removes only the bottom-margin. But a <p> has a top-margin too, that's exactly as big as the bottom-margin (unless you change it). Those two margins overlap. If you only remove one of the two, there's no visual difference. But if you want to change the bottom-margin, you better first buy some whisky and tranquilizers. Because you have to change that by hand on EVERY <p>. And there are a lot of <p>'s.
On all kind of places other inline-css or deprecated html-tags are inserted. That's why it's almost impossible to correct something by hand. If I change the font, but somewhere in your html there's a font-change too, it's very hard to control that. And if I change that font-change, does that influence other things? Etc. Almost impossible.

There's another problem. If you use this code, you can't use any other wysiwyg-editor (as far as I know). Every editor has it's own way of coding. Another editor 'sees' all these in's (inches) and thinks: "I don't know what these do, so better leave them alone." And may put another inline-css behind it, overruling the first inline-css and doubling your inline-css. Or it destroys it. So if you use this code (or any other bad quality code) you're hooked on the editor you made the code with.

I had no experience with Amaya. I think you can use that for the kind of site you have. I played a bit with it, and it seems to make pretty good code, without deprecated tags etc.. I guess it's possible to use this code in any other good editor (no guarantee) and at least it's probably possible to edit the code by hand, if necessary.
One remark if you want to use Amaya: you should choose for html as doctype ('document profile' it's called in dutch) and for utf-8 as chartype (text encoding it's called in Dutch). Those translators translate standard English names in Dutch too, grumble, so I don't know how Amaya calls it in English.
xhtml, the other doctype, is dead. And since Amaya is working by the standards, using xhtml gives really big problems in IE 9 (or 10) and before, because IE had it's own definition of xhtml. If you don't use utf-8 there's a very big chance (a lot of) your French diacritics change in square boxes or something that looks like Chinese on some computers.

Well, that's about it. If BlueGriffon is not working, I think Amaya may be an alternative. But only for sites that use only text, images, links, etc., not for more complicated sites.

I have no experience with Wordpress either, but did you think about using Wordpress?
As far as I know BlueGriffon is supposed to work on Kubuntu. Maybe there's somewhere a forum you can ask about the crashing menus? Or some kind soul here (I'm no linux expert at all...).

Thanks for your detailed explanation. I think it would be too much of a nightmare to edit the code by hand in every file. I didn't even plan to use CSS styles in my code. The WYSIWYG editor simply used them automatically. I think it would be simpler for me to pick a quality WYSIWYG editor and then use it to recreate all my pages in simple HTML, no CSS. They're very simple pages. I don't need fancy things like CSS or javascript or whatever. I need to find the command in Amaya for choosing a background image. I've looked, but I can't seem to find it.

I haven't tried Wordpress, but I will. I think what I'll do is keep the page as is, updating it with Dreamweaver while I try test pages with other editors like Amaya and Wordpress. Later, when I decide what works best, I can recreate my page. Whenever possible, I prefer to run a Linux-based app instead of a Windows one under WINE. Fortunately, Dreamweaver 8 does run really well under WINE.