mount HDD without fstab entry and password

[gnomek]

Is there any way to mount Sata disk the same way as USB, i.e. without adding entry to fstab?

I have IDE HDD disk that I want to use as data disk and not to mount each time but only occasionally. I don't even want to connect it each time but only when it is necessary. The second important thing is that this will be used by user2 with no administrative rights.

I checked options for it to mount automatically in KDE settings but is still ask for admin password.

A partial solution would be if it could ask for user2 password.

Is there any program that can deal with it?

I think about such solution because when add entry to fstab and don't connect the disk system always reminds me at startup that there it can't mount this disk.
Even when I had rights set to
drwxrwxr-x user2:user2
it didn't help. user2 belongs to plugdev group.

Basically I'd like to mount it the same USB are mounted. Would format it to NTFS change anything?

[jlittle]

(BTW, disks aren't mounted, file systems on partitions are.)
That sounds like you want an "automount".You can do them

• in dolphin
• in system settings, confusingly called "removable drives"
• the udisksctl command

Regards, John Little

[gnomek]

I have options in system settings checked.

It mounts automatically for user1 (admin) but not for user2.

[vinnywright]

if the disk is plugged in after boot (like in an enclosure with usb), it will act/show as a removable disk

if conected before boot but not mounted in/through fstab it should still show in dolphins "places panel" (left side) and get mounted with a click

VINNY

[gnomek]

There is error info about udisks and polkit.subject-pid: 2603
polkit.caller-pid: 1843

I thought it was first connected to this problem
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=280116

but the change described there didn't help.

Disk has one partition with ntfs.

What is strange - for user1 (admin) it mounts it to /media/user1/diskname
(I gave the disk a name.)

And for user2 it also tries to mount it to /media/user1/diskname

That's why problem with authentication arises, I guess.

Inserting disk in sata slot after loging to user2 desktop causes that it even doesn't appear in Dolphin.

[jlittle]

What is strange - for user1 (admin) it mounts it to /media/user1/diskname

Did you unmount it as user1? (F.ex, Right click in the places panel in dolphin.)

[gnomek]

I logged in as user1 (admin). sdb1 was automatically mouted to /media/user1/diskname
I did:

sudo umount /dev/sdb1

and

sudo /usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdb1 /media/user2

but it mounted it in
/media/diskname
and even as user1 I can't access it.

When I click in Dolphin mount command output is:
/dev/sdb1 on /media/user1/diskname type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,b lksize=4096)

What are this "default_permissions" and how to add permissions for user2?

Perhaps something is messed up with this mounting system policy. Looks like a bug.

I also tried this
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=115610
but still no success.

It mounts this partiton

drwx------ 1 user1 user1 4096 Nov  7 10:33 diskname

and
sudo chown user2 user2 diskname
can't change it.

/media$ ls -l

drwxr-x---+ 2 root root    4096 Nov  7 14:03 user2
drwxrwxr-x+ 3 [B]lp [/B]  user2 4096 Nov  7 14:54 user1

What lp is here?

lp stands for line printer devices - hmm,strange

Even changing permissions in /media doesn't change anything

drwxrwxr-x+ 2 user2 user2 4096 lis  7 18:59 user2
drwxrwxr-x+ 2 user2 user2 4096 lis  7 19:24 user1

Should I report a bug?