Is Muon stable for anyone yet

[SteveRiley]

The last message in that thread is rather telling

Indeed...

I wonder what's up with Gmane at the moment? Suddenly it can't display any content, from any newsgroup at all.

[Rog132]

About Muon

Muon package manager

At here it seems to work...



and - so it seems the Muon Updater.


QApt

Michael Stemle ( manchicken on the #kubuntu-devel ) has been working with the libqapt - The Muon uses the libqapt.

From the Kubuntu devel mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
- https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ku...er/007615.html
- https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ku...er/007629.html
- https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ku...er/007637.html

and from the KDE review: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/groups/libqapt/



Muon Discover

Muon Discover / Trusty at Kubuntu devel mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel --> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ku...ry/007667.html

[whatthefunk]

I never had problems with Muon until 13.10. It crashes, hangs during installing, wont update etc. Ive given up on it and am sticking to apt-get for the time being.

[Snowhog]

I concur with Rog131. For me, Muon Package Manager works just fine; no crashes; no problems. I do, however, only use the CLI for actual package management. I'm just 'old school', and prefer using the CLI for that.

[richb]

My package manager of choice is Synaptic. Because I am more familiar with it and it has been reliable for several years. I do occasionally use the command line.

[Feathers McGraw]

I had a problem upgrading my girlfriend's 13.04 to 13.10. It hit a snag about 75% through, said the system may be in a usable state (barely!) and aborted.

I used Muon to do the upgrade, is that any different to doing it from the CLI? Does Muon just run apt-get do-release-upgrade?

I re-partitioned, installed 13.10 alongside it and transferred over her data, so no problem I'm just curious.

Feathers

[SteveRiley]

Does Muon just run apt-get do-release-upgrade?

It does not.

Muon is a GUI interface to QApt. QApt is both a Qt wrapper (that is, an abstraction) around libapt and an implementation of APT in its own right. A scan through the various -devel mail lists seems to show that a number of Muon's reported problems are more a result of bugs in QApt than with Muon itself.

apt-get is a command-line tool that works directly with libapt. do-release-upgrade is a Python 3 script in /usr/bin that relies on apt-get to perform the actual work.

[Feathers McGraw]

I'll do it from the CLI next time then! Thanks for the info

[SteveRiley]

My laptop has gone Precise-Quantal-Raring-Saucy via do-release-upgrade, without a hitch every time.

[Feathers McGraw]

My laptop has gone Precise-Quantal-Raring-Saucy via do-release-upgrade, without a hitch every time.

I think I did it this way before too, when it worked.

While we're talking about Muon, why is Muon Discover so bloody slow? I think the design is quite nice, but it's like wading through treacle!

[richb]

My laptop has gone Precise-Quantal-Raring-Saucy via do-release-upgrade, without a hitch every time.

Went from 13.04 to 13.10 that way. I prefer it for release upgrades. synaptic for regular updates to packages.

[zeeone]

Right, it had apparently gone unmaintained for a while:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux....l.kubuntu/7492

Glad to see that someone else has picked it up.

Since the upgrade to 13.10, Muon has not worked on both of my loads, so Been using synaptic instead(it is in the repos).

It looks like yesterday's updates for Muon that came in, have completed the final missing pieces needed.

Used Muon with this morning's updates and it looks to have worked just fine. The only last problem that can not be check yet
is the "A restart is required" event.

So I would say Muon is very much more stable now, than at the time of the upgrade.


Reading through this thread there seems to be a few that need to read

showthread.php?63851-New-muon-updater&highlight=muon

showthread.php?64001-Upgradeing-to-13-10&highlight=muon

showthread.php?63918-problems&highlight=muon

showthread.php?64117-special-effects-no-longer-working-after-update&highlight=muon

And many more posts on Muon problems since the upgrade. Just type muon into the search box and start reading.

Thank you SteveRiley for the muon update info and to you, with others, of taking the time to post other ways
to do updates beside Muon(again comes to mind).

Be patent, we have a new team that has jumped in with both feet, after being dumped by the last group. I think
they are doing a real bang up job with Kubuntu under the circumstances.

[SteveRiley]

While we're talking about Muon, why is Muon Discover so bloody slow? I think the design is quite nice, but it's like wading through treacle!

sudo apt-get install treacle-thinner

[caryb]

Strange that some have issues & some don't. I have a common denominator both machines are Lenovo's 1 is a D30 Thinkstation 2 x Xeons & 64G of ram etc & the other a T510 laptop i5 & 8G ram. Both are running Trusty The laptop had been upgraded since Hardy so I shouted it a new install from trusty iso to try & fix the muon issues, & the D30 is new & it's 1st O/S (besides the Windblow$ 8 that got blown away before its 1st boot) is trusty.

[MoonRise]

Yes, I use Synaptic and MUON interchangeably. Depends on the notifier and what is stated as needing done. If just a few items MUON. More than 10 I use Synaptic. Haven't had issues with MUON that way.