does kubuntu store user data in their servers like Ubuntu and does it share it with other IT companies like amazon !!!
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David Edmundson's thoughts: http://planetkde.org/ -> http://www.sharpley.org.uk/blog/ubuntu-search
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3. Privacy tweaks
As you probably know, by default Dash shows all the recently accessed files as well as other files found on your filesystem. By selecting Security & Privacy from System Settings, you can choose what file types can show up in Dash, exclude various applications or folders/partitions from showing up in Dash and there's also an option to clear usage data.
Furthermore, on the Search tab, you can disable online search results from being displayed in Dash. However, this option disables all the online search results so if for instance you only want to disable the shopping suggestions...Last edited by Rog132; Nov 11, 2013, 04:35 AM.A good place to start: Topic: Top 20 Kubuntu FAQs & Answers
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Originally posted by Rog132 View PostDavid Edmundson's thoughts: http://planetkde.org/ -> http://www.sharpley.org.uk/blog/ubuntu-search
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Originally posted by kubicle View PostI wouldn't put too much weight on that, Mr. Edmundson doesn't seem to have a clear grasp on the technical implementation of the lenses, and misses the point of the EFF's stance (and the privacy concerns) on the subject completely.Mark Your Solved Issues [SOLVED]
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Pan-Galactic QuordlepleenSo Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
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I feel that one of my epic deconstructions is certainly in order here.
The idea behind it seems to be to create a single unified search bar, abstracting sources from the user. You can search for a song, and not care if the results are local or remote. Pretty neat.
It's quite hard to combine results from the internet, without using the internet, so your search ends up online.
Whilst this is encrypted, the results back are not.
This is no worse than a search query with Google or Yahoo or any other search engine, and arguably considerably better as you are not later tracked round the web.
In all the search lenses, Amazon is added by default, this gives Canonical money which is fed back into Ubuntu.
This is akin to how Mozilla Firefox set the default search provider to Google. Mozilla earn over $96 million per year for this.
KDE Has similar partnerships with enabling DuckDuckGo searches to be manually activated from krunner for a lot lot less.
Canonical does not have your file contents, they don't even have a list of your files, nor do they track all key presses.
At best, there is a record of a search term linked to an IP address, which may of may not be part of a file name. It's not a lot of private data, and it's not linked to you as a named individual.
The claim by the EFF, is not about the possibility of Canonical 'spying' on you.
The claim is that a hacker sniffing your network traffic could infer from the from the images returned from Amazon what you are searching for. Personally I consider this a very weak claim, if someone is sniffing your network traffic your are more likely to give away personal information in other ways, such as any browsing.
It's up to us as the wider community to balance this with pragmatism and to keep things within proportion.
And this potential issue has since been addressed for 13.10, all data back is also encrypted, addressing the main point from the EFF.
There is a traditional gap between web and local applications, people ignorant of what the dash search does, mistakenly take this for a simple file search.
For a file search to use the web would clearly be wrong.
The majority of the complaints and criticisms I have read do not come from Ubuntu users who have seen the Ubuntu bar.
If we always try to pander to the notion of treating web and local data as two completely separate distinct entities desktop Linux will always be held behind the web applications that are able to employ much richer content.
I don't want to have to be at a point where Firefox has to provide a prompt to explicitly state that it will use a network connection.
Spies (with the exception of James Bond) are also secretive. The Ubuntu dash makes no effort to hide exactly what it is doing.
To call it spyware is a blatant lie, to call it a privacy invasion I think is a massive exaggeration of a rather minor concern that misunderstands the goals of the dash.
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Ooh, a forum thread about me.
There's lots of "you"'s in that and I think there's been some misunderstanding.
I'm a KDE developer (hence my post being on PlanetKDE). I'm not a Ubuntu user, and I'm definitely not a Ubuntu developer (save for a few patches in LightDM).
I had to run Ubuntu whilst investigating a KDE bug which I thought might be system-wide, given all the news I was curious to check out the dash to see what it was like for myself. I honestly don't think that someone could get confused by a bar titled "search online and local sources" and there's an entire tab next to it for choosing which source you want to search. Having installed some lenses it all made sense. TBH It's not too far from some of the goals of KDE's (failed) Project Silk.
I wrote that post because there is a lot of misinformation being spread; people claiming it uploaded all your personal details whenever it did a search. Even you say "Amazon will slowly be able to compile a list of my files". No they can't! It goes through productsearch.ubuntu.com to anonymise it.
For people saying I don't know what I'm talking about, I would urge you to read the EFF website properly. The EFF are awesome and they definitely know what they are talking about. What they say here (and note that the one security issue they mention here is addressed) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/1...and-data-leaks. What I aimed to convey, is this is a world apart from the whipped up social media frenzy which makes out that Ubuntu's search bar is scarier than Darth Vader taped to the back of a shark.
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If " It goes through productsearch.ubuntu.com to anonymise it.", then "Ubuntu's search bar is scarier than Darth Vader taped to the back of a shark." Perhaps not your intent, but the effect is there as is the meaning.
The simple fact that someone's data is being intercepted and collected, and compiled and stored without explicit permission of that someone - is just wrong. To do so and justify it by saying "well you didn't tell me to stop" - is just wrong. The fact that the default behavior of so many organizations, including governmental, is to do that - is just wrong.
And if the answer is - with ego set to extreme prejudice - "well just sue me", then it is just wrong AND idiotic.
If you want my data, then ask - every time. Don't assume that my silence is acquiesance. Big companies and government organizations take the position of "ask for forgiveness rather than permission" to a bullying extreme and it's becoming more disgusting with each passing incident. It's no longer cute.The next brick house on the left
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Originally posted by d_ed View PostNo they can't! It goes through productsearch.ubuntu.com to anonymise it.
Queries don't go through productsearch for anonymisation, they go through so Canonical can get the referral income.
Even if the data actually was anonymous for 3rd parties, it's just as bad (in the privacy sense) for Canonical itself to collect that database without explicit user consent.
Also, if you read your own link, the privacy concerns are not addressed (see "What EFF Wants From Ubuntu")
makes out that Ubuntu's search bar is scarier than Darth Vader taped to the back of a shark.Last edited by kubicle; Nov 28, 2013, 10:06 PM.
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