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    #16
    So having done that, it seems grub is in the right place now, but all I'm getting is the grub prompt screen, so am not able to boot into either OS.
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      #17
      Originally posted by bngllghr View Post
      /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: Sector 32 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it. This software may cause boot or other problems in future. Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track.
      /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: Sector 33 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it. This software may cause boot or other problems in future. Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track.
      Installation finished. No error reported.
      Ahhhh, this explains it. I touched on this in an another thread. Flexnet has co-op'd a portion of your MBR and data storage area for customer identification. Adobe did this sometimes too. Grub needs the section between the MBR and the first used data sector (64) and this is why it's failing.

      What you have to do is wipe the Boot part of the MBR clean a then reinstall grub as instructed above. To do this you must use DD. I caution you to BE VERY CAREFUL using DD. It has no sanity checks and you can wipe your whole disk clean with it.

      First step: boot to the USB and mount your install partition. <<TIP>> Cut n' paste these commands! Avoid missing things like spaces and such! <<>>

      sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/install

      Then we make a back up of your first 63 sectors just in case.

      sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/install/sda_mbr_backup.bin bs=512 count=63

      You now have made a backup of the MBR and the first 63 sectors. We are now going to wipe only the empty (usually) sectors and leave the MBR and partition section intact. Don't worry, as long as you did the previous step correctly, you can recover from a mess up.

      sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=62 seek=1

      Now you can begin again with the above steps to install grub. It should work this time. I've done these exact steps on one of my laptops and it worked just as planned.

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        #18
        Thanks, Oshunluvr. I'm going to leave that until the morning so I don't @#$% it up out of tiredness
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          #19
          Here's exactly what I did:

          sudo mkdir /mnt/install
          ...
          sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/install
          ...
          sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/install/sda_mbr_backup.bin bs=512 count=63
          ...
          sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=62 seek=1
          ...
          sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/install /dev/sda

          Seemed ok, no errors, 'installation successful'. Rebooted. Got the grub prompt screen. Booted again from USB and tried:

          Code:
          kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo update-grub
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.
kubuntu@kubuntu:~$
          Just looking again at your original instructions:

          5. Reboot. Grub should come up. Log in, open a terminal again.
          6. sudo update-grub
          Should I be able to log in from the grub prompt screen itself in order to get to the terminal to enter 'sudo update-grub'? Just researching this now, but please let me know if I'm way off the mark.
          Last edited by bngllghr; Jan 17, 2014, 06:13 AM. Reason: update
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            #20
            That should have worked. At least grub installed with no errors so that's out of the way. There must not be a grub.cfg on your system. Reboot and try this at the grub prompt:

            set root=(hd0,msdos6)
            set prefix=(hd0,msdos6)/boot/grub
            insmod normal
            normal
            boot

            If that fails try:

            set root=(hd0,msdos6)
            linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6
            initrd /initrd.img
            boot

            This second one will only work if the /boot directory on sda6 has symlinks "vmlinuz" and "initrd.img" properly defined. If not, type in the full name of those files like /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-35-generic or whatever yours is.

            If either of these work, run update-grub and you should be good to go.

            Here's the good news: All this trouble was caused by Flexnet using sector 32. Now at least you have wiped that off, so IF you wanted to - a re-install should work and you'd have a booting system again.
            Last edited by oshunluvr; Jan 17, 2014, 09:28 AM.

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              #21
              set root=(hd0,msdos6)
              set prefix=(hd0,msdos6)/boot/grub
              insmod normal
              normal
              boot
              This gives 'error: You need to load the kernel first.'

              set root=(hd0,msdos6)
              linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6
              initrd /initrd.img
              boot
              This works initially, in that it allows me to boot into Kubuntu (once). However, after I do 'sudo update-grub' and reboot, I'm back at grub again and have to repeat the commands in order to get back in.

              I also tried:

              Code:
              set root=(hd0,msdos6)
linux /vmlinuz-3.11.0.14-generic root=/dev/sda6 
initrd /initrd.img-3.11.0.14-generic
boot
              Which does exactly the same as above.

              Below is the Terminal output for update-grub.

              Code:
              ben@ben-Ideapad-Z570:~$ ls -l /boot
total 70120
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1005798 Oct  9 17:49 abi-3.11.0-12-generic
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1006439 Nov 12 17:33 abi-3.11.0-14-generic
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   163251 Oct  9 17:49 config-3.11.0-12-generic
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   163255 Nov 12 17:33 config-3.11.0-14-generic
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root     4096 Jan 17 18:16 grub
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26037102 Jan  2 19:53 initrd.img-3.11.0-12-generic
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25269813 Jan  2 19:55 initrd.img-3.11.0-14-generic
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   176500 Jun 17  2013 memtest86+.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   178680 Jun 17  2013 memtest86+_multiboot.bin
-rw------- 1 root root  3285893 Oct  9 17:49 System.map-3.11.0-12-generic
-rw------- 1 root root  3286278 Nov 12 17:33 System.map-3.11.0-14-generic
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  5600032 Jan  2 19:45 vmlinuz-3.11.0-12-generic
-rw------- 1 root root  5601072 Nov 12 17:33 vmlinuz-3.11.0-14-generic
ben@ben-Ideapad-Z570:~$ sudo update-grub
[sudo] password for ben: 
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-14-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-12-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-12-generic
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
Found Windows Vista (loader) on /dev/sda2
Found Windows Recovery Environment (loader) on /dev/sda4
done
ben@ben-Ideapad-Z570:~$
              Last edited by bngllghr; Jan 17, 2014, 12:36 PM.
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                #22
                I'm running out of ideas.

                OK, boot into Kubuntu again. Run:

                sudo grub-install /dev/sda
                sudo update-grub

                and post the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg and /boot/grub/device.map. Then reboot again and report results.

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                  #23
                  Tried the first command but got this

                  Code:
                  ben@ben-Ideapad-Z570:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[sudo] password for ben: 
source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory
ben@ben-Ideapad-Z570:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory
ben@ben-Ideapad-Z570:~$
                  Here's config. file though:

                  Code:
                  #
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
  set have_grubenv=true
  load_env
fi
set default="0"

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
  menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
  menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
  set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
  save_env saved_entry
  set prev_saved_entry=
  save_env prev_saved_entry
  set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
  if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
    saved_entry="${chosen}"
    save_env saved_entry
  fi
}

function recordfail {
  set recordfail=1
  if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
}

function load_video {
  if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
    insmod all_video
  else
    insmod efi_gop
    insmod efi_uga
    insmod ieee1275_fb
    insmod vbe
    insmod vga
    insmod video_bochs
    insmod video_cirrus
  fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
   font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos6'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6  fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
fi
    font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
  set gfxmode=auto
  load_video
  insmod gfxterm
  set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
  set lang=en_GB
  insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ]; then
  set timeout=-1
else
  set timeout=5
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=cyan/blue
set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
function gfxmode {
	set gfxpayload="${1}"
	if [ "${1}" = "keep" ]; then
		set vt_handoff=vt.handoff=7
	else
		set vt_handoff=
	fi
}
if [ "${recordfail}" != 1 ]; then
  if [ -e ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt ]; then
    if hwmatch ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt 3; then
      if [ ${match} = 0 ]; then
        set linux_gfx_mode=keep
      else
        set linux_gfx_mode=text
      fi
    else
      set linux_gfx_mode=text
    fi
  else
    set linux_gfx_mode=keep
  fi
else
  set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
export linux_gfx_mode
menuentry 'GNU/Linux' --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543' {
recordfail
	load_video
	gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
	insmod gzio
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='hd0,msdos6'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6  fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
	fi
	linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-14-generic root=UUID=fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543 ro   
	initrd	/boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-generic
}
submenu 'Advanced options for GNU/Linux' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543' {
	menuentry 'GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.11.0-14-generic' --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.11.0-14-generic-advanced-fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543' {
	recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos6'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6  fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 3.11.0-14-generic ...'
		linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-14-generic root=UUID=fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543 ro   
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-generic
	}
	menuentry 'GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.11.0-14-generic (recovery mode)' --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.11.0-14-generic-recovery-fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543' {
	recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos6'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6  fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 3.11.0-14-generic ...'
		linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-14-generic root=UUID=fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543 ro recovery nomodeset 
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-14-generic
	}
	menuentry 'GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.11.0-12-generic' --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.11.0-12-generic-advanced-fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543' {
	recordfail
		load_video
		gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
		insmod gzio
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos6'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6  fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 3.11.0-12-generic ...'
		linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-12-generic root=UUID=fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543 ro   
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-12-generic
	}
	menuentry 'GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.11.0-12-generic (recovery mode)' --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.11.0-12-generic-recovery-fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543' {
	recordfail
		load_video
		insmod gzio
		insmod part_msdos
		insmod ext2
		set root='hd0,msdos6'
		if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6  fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
		else
		  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
		fi
		echo	'Loading Linux 3.11.0-12-generic ...'
		linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-12-generic root=UUID=fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543 ro recovery nomodeset 
		echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
		initrd	/boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-12-generic
	}
}

### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+)' {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='hd0,msdos6'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6  fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
	fi
	linux16	/boot/memtest86+.bin
}
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)' {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='hd0,msdos6'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6  fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fd9264a6-85cd-403a-b55b-3a14a9fd9543
	fi
	linux16	/boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry 'Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-6296E81596E7E80D' {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ntfs
	set root='hd0,msdos1'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  6296E81596E7E80D
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 6296E81596E7E80D
	fi
	chainloader +1
}
menuentry 'Windows Vista (loader) (on /dev/sda2)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-6246E9C246E996D7' {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ntfs
	set root='hd0,msdos2'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos2 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos2 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos2  6246E9C246E996D7
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 6246E9C246E996D7
	fi
	chainloader +1
}
menuentry 'Windows Recovery Environment (loader) (on /dev/sda4)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-C420EFB620EFAE1C' {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ntfs
	set root='hd0,msdos4'
	if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos4 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos4  C420EFB620EFAE1C
	else
	  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root C420EFB620EFAE1C
	fi
	drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
	chainloader +1
}
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f  ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
  source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f  $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
  source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
                  /boot/grub/device.map
                  There's no file by that name in that location. I do have 'file:///boot/System.map-3.11.0-12-generic' and 'file:///boot/System.map-3.11.0-14-generic' though if that's relevant?

                  Also, not sure whether it's important but of the two files 'vmlinuz-3.11.0-12-generic' and 'vmlinuz-3.11.0-14-generic', the former shows as 'DOS/Windows Executable' while the latter shows as an 'unknown' file type.
                  Last edited by bngllghr; Jan 17, 2014, 03:17 PM.
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                    #24
                    Ok, manually boot back into your install and try this:

                    sudo apt-get update
                    sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc

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                      #25
                      Still the same after trying that.

                      Occassionally

                      set root=(hd0,msdos6)
                      set prefix=(hd0,msdos6)/boot/grub
                      insmod normal
                      normal
                      Gives me a bunch of options:

                      GNU/Linux
                      Advance Options for GNU/Linux
                      Memory test (memtest86+)
                      Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)
                      Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)
                      Windows Recover Environment Environment (loader) (on /dev/sda4)

                      But regardless of what I select, I just get a list of errors. I photographed the screen if it's useful?
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                        #26
                        Yeah, post it. Like I said I'm running out of ideas.

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                          #27
                          Do this for me: run

                          sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=mbrsectors.bin bs=512 count=63

                          and attach the file mbrsectors.bin to your next post. I want to compare your sectors to mine.

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                            #28
                            And list the output from:

                            ll /boot/grub

                            from sda6 of course.

                            Lets see your defaults too. Post or attach a copy of /etc/default/grub
                            Last edited by oshunluvr; Jan 17, 2014, 07:34 PM.

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                              #29
                              Did you re-run

                              sudo grub-install /dev/sda
                              sudo update-grub

                              after you ran

                              sudo apt-get update
                              sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc

                              ??

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                                #30
                                Did you re-run

                                sudo grub-install /dev/sda
                                sudo update-grub

                                after you ran
                                Code:
                                sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc
                                ??
                                Erm ... no ...

                                So, I redid it and .... IT WORKS!! Both Kubunutu and Windows now boot up fine.


                                I do have an error displayed in the boot process though:

                                Code:
                                * Starting Reload cups, upon starting avahi-daemon to make sure remote queues are populated [OK]

* Starting Reload cups, upon starting avahi-daemon to make sure remote queues are populated [fail]
                                The following is pasted from boot.log:

                                Code:
                                 * Starting Reload cups, upon starting avahi-daemon to make sure remote queues are populated[164G[ OK ]
 * Setting up X socket directories...       [170G 
[164G[ OK ]
 * Starting Reload cups, upon starting avahi-daemon to make sure remote queues are populated[164G[[31mfail[39;49m]
                                I had a look in a few forums and it seems to be a common bug within ubuntu, as per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...i/+bug/1158686

                                Being as I'm not networking printers, am I ok to just leave this as it is?

                                I did try:

                                sudo apt-get install --reinstall cups

                                As instructed here: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showth...is-not-running

                                But that didn't fix it. It doesn't seem to be causing any problems though ...
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