Kwallet problems keep me out of Kmail

[vinnywright]

Unfortunately this doesn't work, I tried it before I went to the lengths of purging Kwalletmanager. Simply turning it off in System Settings didn't affect the problem. I just looked in Startup & Shutdown-->Service Manager (didn't know to look there, thanks!) but I didn't see anything that seemed relevant. At this point I've removed the wallet software as far as Muon/Synaptic are concerned and there's nothing about it in System Settings. But the damn thing still runs!

are you sure you "disabled" the wallet subsystem ?? it is not in system settings , it is in Kickoff>applications>system , and it is imposable for it to bother you if the subsystem is off.
check again!!

VINNY

[cdupree]

Thanks again to all responders for your attempts at assistance!

Vinny, I tried disabling the wallet system as you describe but it had no effect on my problem. Then I purged kwalletmanager so I now have nothing in Kickoff->Applications->System that I can use to shut off any wallet stuff.

Snowhog, I cleared everything off the list of applications for startup and checked Start with an empty session. When I reboot only one window pops up: Kwallet.

When I use KSysGuard to end the kwalletd process I get the situation I want, where I can use KeePassX to save passwords for encrypted disks and so on. So it is possible to get things working, but I have to kill kwalletd every time I boot. Do I have to dump the PIM?

[Snowhog]

Have you checked System Settings > Account Details > KDE Wallet > Wallet Preferences to ensure it isn't checked? If it is checked, uncheck it.

[cdupree]

After purging kwalletmanager there is no System Settings > Account Details > KDE Wallet > Wallet Preferences in System Settings. In fact there is no System Settings > Account Details > KDE Wallet.

[Snowhog]

If kwalletmanager is purged, then there is no reason (that I can fathom) why any part of it would be available to run under any condition. Open a console and type:

sudo install mlocate

This is a nice CLI search utility. You'll be asked if you want to run it as yourself or globally. I suggest globally, but it's up to you. Once the database is created/refreshed, type:

locate kwallet

If it is installed (still), you should have a listing very similar to this:

/home/paul/.kde/share/apps/kwallet
/home/paul/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl
/home/paul/.kde/share/config/kwalletrc
/usr/bin/kwalletd
/usr/bin/kwalletmanager
/usr/include/kwallet.h
/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4
/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4.11.1
/usr/lib/kde4/kcm_kwallet.so
/usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_kwalletd.so
/usr/share/app-install/desktop/kwalletmanager:kde4__kwalletmanager.desktop
/usr/share/app-install/icons/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/applications/kde4/kwalletmanager-kwalletd.desktop
/usr/share/applications/kde4/kwalletmanager.desktop
/usr/share/doc/kwalletmanager
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/application-request-to-open-wallet.png
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/common
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/first-open-request.png
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/index.cache.bz2
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/index.docbook
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/kwallet-applications.png
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/kwallet-edit.png
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/openwallet-request.png
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/oxygen48-status-wallet-closed.png
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/oxygen48-status-wallet-open.png
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kwallet/save-login-information.png
/usr/share/doc/kwalletmanager/TODO
/usr/share/doc/kwalletmanager/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/kwalletmanager/copyright
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kwalletmanager2.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kwalletmanager2.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kwalletmanager2.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kwalletmanager2.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kwalletmanager2.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/256x256/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletd
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletmanager
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletd/kwalletd.notifyrc
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletmanager/icons
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletmanager/kwalletmanager.rc
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletmanager/icons/hicolor
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletmanager/icons/hicolor/22x22
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletmanager/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletmanager/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/folder_closed.png
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletmanager/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/folder_open.png
/usr/share/kde4/services/kwalletconfig.desktop
/usr/share/kde4/services/kwalletd.desktop
/usr/share/kde4/services/kwalletmanager_show.desktop
/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/kwalletrc
/usr/share/mime/application/x-kwallet.xml
/var/lib/dpkg/info/kwalletmanager.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/kwalletmanager.md5sums

Let's see what it reports on your system.

[vinnywright]

do

locate wallet

and see how much of it is left on your system ,,,,,,I cant beleave it is still opening if you removed/purged all of it ??

VINNY

[vinnywright]

sory @Snowhog we are having the same thoughts ,,,,,,,but is not locate a default app. ?

VINNY

[cdupree]

Here's what I get:

/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4
/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4.10.5
/usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_kwalletd.so
/usr/share/app-install/desktop/kwalletmanager:kde4__kwalletmanager.desktop
/usr/share/app-install/icons/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/256x256/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletd
/usr/share/kde4/services/kwalletd.desktop
/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/kwalletrc
/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkwallet.mo
/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kwalletd.mo
/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kwalletmanager.mo
/usr/share/mime/application/x-kwallet.xml
/var/cache/apt/archives/kwalletcli_2.11-2_amd64.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kwalletmanager_4%3a4.10.4-0ubuntu0.1_amd64.deb

[Snowhog]

Must be. The actual program is mlocate (edited my post to reflect that), but the CLI program name is locate. I can't find in my logs where I installed mlocate, so I guess it gets installed by default.

[Snowhog]

Here's what I get:

/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4
/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4.10.5
/usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_kwalletd.so
/usr/share/app-install/desktop/kwalletmanager:kde4__kwalletmanager.desktop
/usr/share/app-install/icons/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/256x256/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/apps/kwalletmanager.png
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletd
/usr/share/kde4/services/kwalletd.desktop
/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/kwalletrc
/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kcmkwallet.mo
/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kwalletd.mo
/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kwalletmanager.mo
/usr/share/mime/application/x-kwallet.xml
/var/cache/apt/archives/kwalletcli_2.11-2_amd64.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kwalletmanager_4%3a4.10.4-0ubuntu0.1_amd64.deb

The offender is:

/usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletd

If you remove this (as root), your problem should be resolved. I would also be inclined to remove these as well:

/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4
/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4.10.5
/usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_kwalletd.so

[cdupree]

locate apparently didn't generate an up-to-date database because /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwalletd was no longer there, I'd deleted it earlier today. I deleted the other three Snowhog recommended. The first reboot was weird, with a window that looked like the wallet one but had no content sitting for quite a while and me unable to get out with Ctrl-Sh-Del. So I turned off the machine and turned it back on, and now things seem to be working well with no evidence of kwallet.

Thanks, everyone! If this continues to work I'll soon mark this thread solved.

[Snowhog]

The locate database gets updated only once per day/reboot (one or the other). I always update it's database after making changes:

updatedb

[vinnywright]

you may want to get rid of the /usr/share/kde4/services/kwalletd.desktop as well
and do a

sudo apt-get clean

I see you still have the 2 wallet .deb's in /var/cache/apt/archives/ so who knows what elce is in their ,,, APT keeps the .deb's you install their ,,,,,,all of them so after a mager update like KDE-4.10 to 4.11 it can become quite large

the "apt-get clean" will remove them .

VINNY

[tek_heretik]

kdesudo dolphin

Navigate to /usr/share/autostart/

Pesky things hide in there, things you/I don't want starting.

[cdupree]

I was having lots of trouble with Kwallet and that was naturally interfering with other applications, so I started using KeePassX and so far I like it a lot. The problem was I couldn't get rid of Kwallet. Things I tried that each failed in various ways to fix the problem:

• turning off the wallet feature in Kickoff-> Applications-> System-> KDE Wallet Manager-> Settings-> Configure Wallet
• removing these two kwallet files and starting over:
  ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl
  ~/.kde/share/config/kwalletrc
  
• using Synaptic to remove kwalletmanager and reinstall
• purging kwalletmanager with 'sudo apt-get purge kwalletmanager'
• using 'ps -ef | grep wallet' to find kwalletd in /usr/bin/kwalletd and remove it
• nevertheless finding kwalletd running through KSysGuard and seeing that after killing the process I was able to use KeePassX and do operations normally
• rebooting and seeing the same old KDE Daemon window asking for my wallet password and refusing to accept the correct one
• turning off any saving of sessions or automatic starting of applications
• using the locate database to find more related files and deleting these:
  /usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4
  /usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.4.10.5
  /usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_kwalletd.so

And that did it, finally. For good measure I deleted /usr/share/kde4/services/kwalletd.desktop, did a 'sudo apt-get clean', and checked /var/cache/apt/archives/ but found nothing there that looked relevant (interesting, though, h/t Vinny!). Now I can reboot or log out and back in without interference from Kwalletmanager, I didn't have to remove the Personal Information Manager (PIM) of Kontact, Kmail, and so on, and at this point everything seems hunky-dory.

Many thanks, as always, to those who helped me find the path that worked!