Is KMail excruciatingly slow by design?

[oshunluvr]

Nepomuk is still crashing.

[blackpaw]

Nepomuk is still crashing.

Do you get a apport stack trace?

Have you disabled email indexing?

[oshunluvr]

I have the dbg package installed, but it won't produce a backtrace for some reason. I'll try it without email indexing.

[blackpaw]

There might be more info in ~/.xsession-errors

[oshunluvr]

I have the dbg package installed, but it won't produce a backtrace for some reason. I'll try it without email indexing.

xsession-errors reveals about 30,000 of these:

[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] nepomukindexer(30375)/nepomuk (strigi service): SimpleIndexError:  "The name org.kde.nepomuk.DataManagement was not provided by any .service files" 
nepomukindexer(30375)/nepomuk (strigi service): "The name org.kde.nepomuk.DataManagement was not provided by any .service files"

and finally this one before it crashes:

"/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub" [out] "sock_file=/home/stuart/.kde/socket-office/kdeinit4__0"

[oshunluvr]

Running now without email indexing. So far so good.

These programs foisted on us that are unremovable and unusable smack of MS type thinking.

[Shimapan]

Works fine here, but I do not have Nepomuk Semantic Desktop enabled, and therefore, it's email indexing isn't running either.

Same here, KMail works fine as well, no speed problems. I have Nepomuk disabled as well. Try turning it completely off, then log out and back in again or reboot, and see if it's better.

To do it credit, nepomuk has been pretty good for file searchs for a while now. And there is improvement on the mail front. But its still making kmail look very bad on a regular basis.

Even with Nepomuk disabled, file searches still work fine for me, and are pretty fast, too.

Running now without email indexing. So far so good.

These programs foisted on us that are unremovable and unusable smack of MS type thinking.

True, it reeks of MS or Gnome, where the programmers decide which features the users can use, and how. Well, at least you can disable it.

[blackpaw]

That would tend to indicate the nepomukserver is not running. What does

nepomukctl status

show?

[oshunluvr]

Even with email indexing disabled it crashed. What a POS.

[kubicle]

What a POS.

What did you expect, it cost 17 million euros.

Seriously, though, I wouldn't rule out a local issue with your installation just yet. I don't use Nepomuk, but I've tested it on occasion, and it was't really crashy on me (which obviously doesn't mean it isn't, but your description seems to suggest the issue should be fairly visible).

[dmeyer]

I saw something about strigi in your error. Nepomuk does not use strigi starting KDE 4.10 therefore I think you might have a unique problem. Could you run

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

.

[oshunluvr]

I saw something about strigi in your error. Nepomuk does not use strigi starting KDE 4.10 therefore I think you might have a unique problem. Could you run

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

.

I do that everyday, thanks.

This is an upgrade install, not fresh (Ubiquity doesn't work here)

[dmeyer]

I do that everyday, thanks.

This is an upgrade install, not fresh (Ubiquity doesn't work here)

Still, you shouldn't need strigi. Try uninstall it and see what happens.

[oshunluvr]

I will. I will also switch to dimap and see how that helps. Thanks for the suggestions.

[SteveRiley]

Background on the Strigi expunge... http://vhanda.in/blog/2012/11/nepomuk-without-strigi/

However, take a look at the dependecy list for KMail. It includes both libstreams0 and libstreamanalyzer0. So while Nepomuk appears to be using its own internal indexer for files, it appears that KMail still wants to use Strigi. Difficult to tell without actually diving into the source code...