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[wrender]

Hmmm.. I had experienced the same problem with 12.04 as well. So I am confused to why yours is ok.

Should I try changing my system fonts?

[life0riley]

I managed to reproduce this. I checked Force fonts DPI and set that to 140 in Application Appearance, Fonts - Systems Settings. Have you tried adjusting the DPI?



With plasmoid rescaling

[wrender]

My Nvidia Driver says my screen is 147x145 dots per inch. What should I set the forced dpi to? 146?

[life0riley]

I think setting the forced dpi to 146 is too high. Based on your screen shots I think it should be lower instead of higher. Most systems have the force font defaults set at 96 dpi. On Windows systems this is called DPI scaling. A smaller scale fits more information on the screen and a larger scale makes text more readable.

It looks like this in Windows.



Here are my current settings in Kubuntu.



I found that text stopped displaying correctly with Force fonts DPI set to anything above 140. The behavior you get varies with the application and plasmoid you are using. The size fonts you use will facter into this also along with the size of your monitor and the screen resolution you choose.

On most systems the default is 96 dpi. I don't have Force fonts DPI checked on my system. I have a 22 inch wide screen monitor with the display set to its native resolution of 1680x1050. Some people would probably think the fonts look small on my screen, but that's what I'm accustomed to. For the most part I keep the default settings.

I don't know what size monitor you have or what its native resolution is. I also don't know if you have customized the font settings or changed the dpi at some time. It is best to start with the default settings as a baseline and customize from there. It may take some tweaking to strike a balance between correct text display without causing eye strain.

What is your current setting? Do you have a large monitor or a small monitor? Have you changed the defaults?

[wrender]

My screen is 15ish inches with a resolution of 1920 by 1200 with default Kubuntu 13.04 theme/font settings.

I'll have to try playing with the force font settings when I get a chance.

[oshunluvr]

Xorg fonts come in 100 DPI and 75 DPI. MS fonts are 96 DPI.

I most often use xorg fonts so I always set 100 dpi and install the 100 dpi fonts.

[wrender]

life0riley you are correct about the DPI being the issue. I had to force lower the DPI to under 130 to see the text properly.

However now it is a bit straining to read text of the UI on the whole system. Curious what do people do running KDE on "retina"/High density displays? Is KDE designed to work in high density displays or is it just this widget that is not coded to work?

[Shimapan]

It's generally a *very bad idea* to set your dpi to more than 96, as it will often lead to improper display with many applications, be it Windumb or Linux. On Windumb, there isn't much you can do about it except increasing dpi and live with the breakage (same as with many other things there, many of which are broken by design.)

On Linux, especially Kubuntu, you can set the font size for everything (System Settings -> Appearance of applications -> Fonts), so you should *always* set your dpi to 96 there and then adjust the font size to your likings. The default font sizes are a bit too small for 1920x1200 (which I use as well), so just increase the font size to your liking. You should also turn on anti-aliasing there and set Hinting to "slight", it makes fonts look a great deal better.

Some applications (e.g. web browsers like Firefox and Konqueror) have font settings of their own, just adjust them to your liking. With Firefox (and Konqueror as well), it's also a good idea to set a minimum font size, so fonts don't get too small. In Firefox it's Edit -> Settings -> Contents, click on the button for the extended font settings, set the minimum font size. I've set mine to 13 there.

[oshunluvr]

It's generally a *very bad idea* to set your dpi to more than 96, as it will often lead to improper display with many applications, be it Windumb or Linux. On Windumb, there isn't much you can do about it except increasing dpi and live with the breakage (same as with many other things there, many of which are broken by design.)

On Linux, especially Kubuntu, you can set the font size for everything (System Settings -> Appearance of applications -> Fonts), so you should *always* set your dpi to 96 there and then adjust the font size to your likings. The default font sizes are a bit too small for 1920x1200 (which I use as well), so just increase the font size to your liking. You should also turn on anti-aliasing there and set Hinting to "slight", it makes fonts look a great deal better.

Some applications (e.g. web browsers like Firefox and Konqueror) have font settings of their own, just adjust them to your liking. With Firefox (and Konqueror as well), it's also a good idea to set a minimum font size, so fonts don't get too small. In Firefox it's Edit -> Settings -> Contents, click on the button for the extended font settings, set the minimum font size. I've set mine to 13 there.

Well, I can't agree here. I've been using 100 DPI and 100 DPI fonts for about 10 years without issue.

[wrender]

It's generally a *very bad idea* to set your dpi to more than 96, as it will often lead to improper display with many applications, be it Windumb or Linux. On Windumb, there isn't much you can do about it except increasing dpi and live with the breakage (same as with many other things there, many of which are broken by design.)

On Linux, especially Kubuntu, you can set the font size for everything (System Settings -> Appearance of applications -> Fonts), so you should *always* set your dpi to 96 there and then adjust the font size to your likings. The default font sizes are a bit too small for 1920x1200 (which I use as well), so just increase the font size to your liking. You should also turn on anti-aliasing there and set Hinting to "slight", it makes fonts look a great deal better.

Some applications (e.g. web browsers like Firefox and Konqueror) have font settings of their own, just adjust them to your liking. With Firefox (and Konqueror as well), it's also a good idea to set a minimum font size, so fonts don't get too small. In Firefox it's Edit -> Settings -> Contents, click on the button for the extended font settings, set the minimum font size. I've set mine to 13 there.

I don't agree with this at all. DPI is in relation to the display device being used. If the device has a higher density then the system should be aware of that and use the proper DPI so that the UI is usable/readable. So whether one is using a full HD screen that is 13 inches or 24 inches it will display it accordingly/appropriately.

[Shimapan]

Well, I can't agree here. I've been using 100 DPI and 100 DPI fonts for about 10 years without issue.

There's next to no difference between 96 dpi and 100 dpi, so no wonder there's no issue.

[oshunluvr]

There's next to no difference between 96 dpi and 100 dpi, so no wonder there's no issue.

Ummmm, you're the one who said

"It's generally a *very bad idea* to set your dpi to more than 96"

so now you're arguing agains't your own statement?? ?? ?? ??

[life0riley]

Wrender, Unfortunately I don't have any spare monitors like yours, so I can't reproduce this with your settings. I've googled some about retina high density displays, but really haven't come up anything at this time.

Do other widgets display correctly on your monitor? I've seen other widget where the text expands with plasmoid rescaling and still displays correctly with Forced fonts DPI set at 140.

We should probably file a bug report. Before we do that, it would be a good idea to test it in another distro to see if we get this same behavior in other KDE distos just to prove its not specific to Kubuntu.

[life0riley]

I'm reviving an old post to follow up.

I get the same behavior in openSUSE when I check Force fonts DPI and set it to 140. The text does not display correctly in Ktorrent Widget even with plasma rescaling.
This is not specific to Kubuntu.

[Quintasan]

I'm reviving an old post to follow up.

I get the same behavior in openSUSE when I check Force fonts DPI and set it to 140. The text does not display correctly in Ktorrent Widget even with plasma rescaling.
This is not specific to Kubuntu.

This is what I have been waiting for before responding. If KDE devs says it's not a bug in KDE and it occurs in other distro then just report it on KDE bugzilla and link it over here please.