Time to resurrect Konqueror

[SteveRiley]

Blue Shell isn't building Firefox-KDE yet for Raring, and without their loving touch, Firefox is just fugly. And since I much prefer KDE browsers anyway, it's time to take a fresh look.

For a while, I championed Rekonq. Alas, with the release of 2.0, certain features have been cut, causing something of a stir among the natives. And while 2.1 is creating a calming effect, I didn't want to wait.

So I installed Konqueror along with kpart-webkit. I disabled the annoying "Open new tabs in the background feature" (the absence of this control in Rekonq 2.0 is why I can't use that browser -- background tabs send me into uncontrollable fits of rage). And I must say I'm liking what I see. YouTube works, with Flash! It's nice to have a browser that looks like my OS again.

[dmeyer]

Konqueror is so amazing but just so old. I wish they poured all the best parts of dolphin and rekonq into konqueror. I like a unified file and web browser but I can't stand Konqueror in its current state. It just feels clunky to work with (I'm not complaining about the features, just how how they are presented.) Its honestly one of the most underrated KDE apps but I've always felt it being marginalized and labeled as a dinosaur with the rise of rekonq and dolphin. Service menus and everything else work perfectly well in konqueror. Heck you still have F4 for a terminal and all the rest plus you have better integration with kget and other kde systems.

I know the reason Rekonq came about was because they wanted to separate file browsing and web browsing but its just so nice, especially with KIO-slaves. I know you can use them with dolphin but they just don't seem as "smooth" as with konqueror. I mean seriously! the audiocd KIO-slave is incredible. Just give it a good look. Most people get custom ripping software when the audiocd KIO-slave does the job so much better!

Konqueror needs to integrate gwenview, klook, okular and all the normal "viewing applications" into a sort of "portal" to your digital life. A lick of nice new paint (a QML interface maybe ) and we have the greatest application of any desktop or OS.

In more general terms. I think the KDE community should start integrating applications more! We have great codebase and share a lot of libraries but it still all feels so fractured compared to say OSX.

[whatthefunk]

Hmmm....I might have to give Konqueror a go. If it doesnt work, Ill probably go back to Opera. It doesnt integrate too well with KDE, but its a great browser.

[dmeyer]

Hmmm....I might have to give Konqueror a go. If it doesnt work, Ill probably go back to Opera. It doesnt integrate too well with KDE, but its a great browser.

I've always found that Opera integrates better with KDE than any other non KDE browser. Heck, Opera is better under KDE than it is under Gnome.

[vinnywright]

I have always liked Konqueror since KDE-3.5 and my first stab at a web server , Konqueror made/makes such nice photo gallery's for you and it is nice to have a combo web/file browser

VINNY

[Qqmike]

Same here, vinny, fwiw. I really like(d) Konqueror as a file manager and am still using it as such for 8.04.3 (Konqueror/KDE 3.5.10). (Using Dolphin for 12.04.)

[sixonetonoffun]

I keep it installed for the sysinfo:// no real need but for that. Not sure why I cling to the old Win-like MyComputer icon guess its just so others who use the computer will feel less intimidated by Kubuntu.

[dmeyer]

I keep it installed for the sysinfo:// no real need but for that. Not sure why I cling to the old Win-like MyComputer icon guess its just so others who use the computer will feel less intimidated by Kubuntu.

I wish we could use all the KIO-slaves with dolphin. I mean look at this list:

• audiocd
• bluetooth
• bookmarks
• bzip
• bzip2
• cgi
• data
• file
• finger
• fish
• floppy
• ftp
• gzip
• help
• http
• https
• imap
• imaps
• info
• ldap
• ldaps
• lzma
• man
• mbox
• nepomuksearch
• nfs
• nntp
• nntps
• obexftp
• pop3
• pop3s
• recentdocuments
• sftp
• sieve
• smb
• smtp
• tar
• thumbnail
• webdav
• webdavs
• xz
• mtp

That's all I could find in the help centre and I'm sure there are even more... Dolphin can't use half of them. By thw way, I recommend everybody look at the audiocd slave at least once, its brilliant.

[KeithZG]

A hearty "hear, hear!" for the Konqueror love; it pains me that development has deprecated Konqueror. My single favourite feature that hasn't already been mentioned here is how if you install Filelight, it adds itself as a file view option in Konqueror. Being able to switch on a dime between browsing files and a fancy graph of sizes is great, and it's something that Dolphin just isn't capable of. I miss when the flagship file manager of KDE was so extensible and multi-faceted!

[kubicle]

Dolphin can't use half of them.

Can you elaborate which kio-slaves won't work in dolphin (some of them won't work I'm sure, like "http", but "half of them")?
and make sure you have the package that includes the kio-slave installed:

> apt-file search kde4/kio_ | grep -v debug | column -t
audiocd-kio:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_audiocd.so
bluedevil:               /usr/lib/kde4/kio_bluetooth.so
bluedevil:               /usr/lib/kde4/kio_obexftp.so
digikam:                 /usr/lib/kde4/kio_digikamalbums.so
digikam:                 /usr/lib/kde4/kio_digikamdates.so
digikam:                 /usr/lib/kde4/kio_digikammapimages.so
digikam:                 /usr/lib/kde4/kio_digikamsearch.so
digikam:                 /usr/lib/kde4/kio_digikamtags.so
dolphin:                 /usr/lib/kde4/kio_filenamesearch.so
kamera:                  /usr/lib/kde4/kio_kamera.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_about.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_applications.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_archive.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_bookmarks.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_cgi.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_desktop.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_filter.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_finger.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_fish.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_floppy.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_info.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_man.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_nepomuk.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_nepomuksearch.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_network.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_nfs.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_recentdocuments.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_remote.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_settings.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_sftp.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_smb.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_tags.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_thumbnail.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_timeline.so
kde-runtime:             /usr/lib/kde4/kio_trash.so
kde-workspace-bin:       /usr/lib/kde4/kio_fonts.so
kde-zeroconf:            /usr/lib/kde4/kio_zeroconf.so
kdelibs5-plugins:        /usr/lib/kde4/kio_file.so
kdelibs5-plugins:        /usr/lib/kde4/kio_ftp.so
kdelibs5-plugins:        /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdelibs5-plugins:        /usr/lib/kde4/kio_metainfo.so
kdepim-runtime:          /usr/lib/kde4/kio_akonadi.so
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins:  /usr/lib/kde4/kio_imap4.so
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins:  /usr/lib/kde4/kio_ldap.so
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins:  /usr/lib/kde4/kio_mbox.so
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins:  /usr/lib/kde4/kio_nntp.so
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins:  /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins:  /usr/lib/kde4/kio_sieve.so
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins:  /usr/lib/kde4/kio_smtp.so
kdesdk-kio-plugins:      /usr/lib/kde4/kio_perldoc.so
kdesdk-kio-plugins:      /usr/lib/kde4/kio_svn.so
kdesvn-kio-plugins:      /usr/lib/kde4/kio_ksvn.so
kdoctools:               /usr/lib/kde4/kio_ghelp.so
kdoctools:               /usr/lib/kde4/kio_help.so
kio-ftps:                /usr/lib/kde4/kio_ftps.so
kio-gopher:              /usr/lib/kde4/kio_gopher.so
kio-mtp:                 /usr/lib/kde4/kio_mtp.so
krusader:                /usr/lib/kde4/kio_iso.so
krusader:                /usr/lib/kde4/kio_krarc.so
ktorrent:                /usr/lib/kde4/kio_magnet.so
libk3b6-extracodecs:     /usr/lib/kde4/kio_videodvd.so
libkactivities-bin:      /usr/lib/kde4/kio_activities.so
okular-extra-backends:   /usr/lib/kde4/kio_msits.so

[bwat47]

why not chrome/chromium? The integration isn't perfect, but it at least uses the native KDE dialogues out of the box and plays nice with KDE when it comes to setting as the default browser. With the oxychrome theme/oxygen gtk it looks pretty decent too.

[dmeyer]

why not chrome/chromium? The integration isn't perfect, but it at least uses the native KDE dialogues out of the box and plays nice with KDE when it comes to setting as the default browser. With the oxychrome theme/oxygen gtk it looks pretty decent too.

Chromium is a web browser, nothing more. Konqueror is a window into your system.

[bwat47]

Chromium is a web browser, nothing more. Konqueror is a window into your system.

Yeah, but OP was talking about firefox and rekonq which are also just browsers

[dmeyer]

Yeah, but OP was talking about firefox and rekonq which are also just browsers

My bad. I mixed this thread up with another. Still Chromium doesn't have integration past some basic appearance similarities. No system notifications. No kget integration. No kpart integration... The only bit of real integration it has is Kwallet integration. No typical KDE level of UI customization. Still an amazing browser though.

[whatthefunk]

I never liked Chrome/Chromium. Never felt right to me. Ive been using an older version of Rekonq and a little Konqueror, but I think Im going to move back to Opera.