Cannot upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 kernel and xorg

[michel]

I thought I should upgrade to the new kernel and xorg to sort my gremlins so I entered the command:

michel@michel-Satellite-L650:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-lts-quantal
[sudo] password for michel: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 audiocd-kio : Depends: libkcompactdisc4 but it is not going to be installed
 gvfs-daemons : Depends: x11-utils
 libkonq5abi1 : Depends: libkonq-common (>= 4:4.10.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed
 libqt4-opengl : Depends: libgl1-mesa-glx or
                          libgl1
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

But I got an error that might indicate I have an issue with my dependencies but apt-get check does not find any. What gives?

Thanks,

Michel

[vinnywright]

those are not package names ,,,,,, and you cant/shouldn’t mix or try to mix packages from different releases ,,,,, you will have trolls instead of gremlins, big nasty ones.
do this

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

do you get errors ?
you can install a newer kernel and xorg ,,,,,,but not like that , and I thought this was a production box you did not want to mess with 2 much , you are on your way to messing , ,,,,,perhaps this is how the gremlins got in to begin with??


VINNY

[michel]

No errors Vinny. I fixed these yesterday with:

cd /var/lib/apt 
sudo mv lists lists.old 
sudo mkdir -p lists/partial 
sudo apt-get clean 
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

That's why I was surprised when I thought I still had dependency issues.

Yes it's my production machine and I was thinking that maybe upgrading kernels and x org as with the new 12.04 will be a safer bet. I got the command line from the wiki. I thought that was the way to do it. So what next? And no I did not attempt this before. The gremlins were there from the start, left me alone for a while and then came back with a vengeance. Things have been quite since yesterday's kernel update to 3.2.0-39

Thanks,

Michel

[dmeyer]

No errors Vinny. I fixed these yesterday with:

cd /var/lib/apt 
sudo mv lists lists.old 
sudo mkdir -p lists/partial 
sudo apt-get clean 
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

That's why I was surprised when I thought I still had dependency issues.

Yes it's my production machine and I was thinking that maybe upgrading kernels and x org as with the new 12.04 will be a safer bet. I got the command line from the wiki. I thought that was the way to do it. So what next? And no I did not attempt this before. The gremlins were there from the start, left me alone for a while and then came back with a vengeance. Things have been quite since yesterday's kernel update to 3.2.0-39

Thanks,

Michel

That's awful logic.

[michel]

That's awful logic.

?

Michel

[vinnywright]

what wiki did you get that from ,,,post a link.

VINNY

[dmeyer]

?

Michel

The Kernel and xorg are really big, important packages. Many components are compiled against a specific version and just upgrading can lead to terrible consequences. This is more applicable to X than it is to the kernel. Nonetheless, if I were you I'd avoid trying that.

If you are in that great a need for a stable, reliable system and the current available *buntu offerings don't seem to work for you then give openSUSE 12.3 a shot even if it is only temporarily till 13.04 comes out... Give the live KDE disc a spin: http://software.opensuse.org/123/en

[michel]

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack also it was discussed over here http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthr...ow-Up-From-PPA and I was under the impression that it was a straight forward affair.

Michel

[michel]

The Kernel and xorg are really big, important packages. Many components are compiled against a specific version and just upgrading can lead to terrible consequences. This is more applicable to X than it is to the kernel. Nonetheless, if I were you I'd avoid trying that.

If you are in that great a need for a stable, reliable system and the current available *buntu offerings don't seem to work for you then give openSUSE 12.3 a shot even if it is only temporarily till 13.04 comes out... Give the live KDE disc a spin: http://software.opensuse.org/123/en

I have grown to like Kubuntu and would like to call it mine. I had an overall good experience so far except with setting up samba and the bugs I have reported. So I will stick with 12.04 for now until 13.04 comes along (is it an lts?).

Thanks,

Michel

[dmeyer]

I have grown to like Kubuntu and would like to call it mine. I had an overall good experience so far except with setting up samba and the bugs I have reported. So I will stick with 12.04 for now until 13.04 comes along (is it an lts?).

Thanks,

Michel

I was just making a suggestion because you've been having a plethora of varied problems, I definitely approve of your distro loyalty but remember to use what works. The next LTS will be 14.04 but that's still a good year and a bit off.

[michel]

I hope I have resolved most of my issues. I am not getting any more crash reports so will see. If I had to look elsewhere I would try CentOs or Freebsd. Keep it on my machine until it dies! Tried Cent on my son's desktop extra HD and it bombed!

There is this guy dedoimedo who summed up the whole Linux situation. People came to Linux for the sake of freedom and efficacy, getting an OS that would just work. Both were achieved for a while but now Linux stability is on the line, that plus having to spend a month every year to fine tune a new install!

Why can;t we get a solid and stable Linux. The system should be supported for 5 years and the applications would be kept up to date with PPAs. As simple as that.

Michel

[dmeyer]

I hope I have resolved most of my issues. I am not getting any more crash reports so will see. If I had to look elsewhere I would try CentOs or Freebsd. Keep it on my machine until it dies! Tried Cent on my son's desktop extra HD and it bombed!

There is this guy dedoimedo who summed up the whole Linux situation. People came to Linux for the sake of freedom and efficacy, getting an OS that would just work. Both were achieved for a while but now Linux stability is on the line, that plus having to spend a month every year to fine tune a new install!

Why can;t we get a solid and stable Linux. The system should be supported for 5 years and the applications would be kept up to date with PPAs. As simple as that.

Michel

If you want an install once and never bother again system then your options are Arch, openSUSE with tumbleweed, Chakra, Sabayon, Gentoo, Fuduntu, Linux Mint Debian, Debian testing of which only the first 5 provide fairly modern packages. Simple as that.

Some people have managed to upgrade their Kubuntu install since 8.04 which means they've had good continuity but packages are frozen still between releases.

[vinnywright]

you can try a newer kernel rather easily and if it dosent work out just chose the older one in grub during boot and remove the newer one once booted up.

the kernels live hear http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/

steve just posted how hear http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthr...730#post324730

basically you DL the 3 linux kernel files to a folder/directory and follow the install command steve posted from in that directory , reboot and test

personally both 12.04 and 12.10 have been perfectly stable for me , and my 12.04 has been net upgraded through every ver. sense 11.04 (do-release-upgrade) and runs a 3.5.0-5 kernal and the oibaf xorg PPA https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/ seems to work fine on my Intel core-I3 graphics

of course I dont care if i trash something , this is NOT a production box , just my fun box and I have 2 other partitions to boot to if one go's south :-P

VINNY

[SteveRiley]

I just tried the LTS Enablement stuff on my Precise server. But only the kernel packages; my server has no X as it sits in my closet data center with the rest of my network gear. The new kernel installed without a hitch, and is now:

root@mini2140:~# [B]uname -a[/B]
Linux mini2140 3.5.0-26-generic #42~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 11 22:19:42 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

(It's amazing how well an Atom-based netbook can be pressed into server duty, haha.)

Based on the version number of the package in the unresolvable dependency error, I'm guessing you've enabled the Kubuntu backports PPA. The question that arises, then, is this: Is the Kubuntu backports PPA compatible with the LTS Enablement Stack for the X Server? I'm not sure. This would probably be a good question to post on the kubuntu-devel mailing list.