exFat with 12.10?

[wrender]

I wanted to purchase a Sandisk 64 gig Class 10 microsd card for my Nokia 808 but I was wondering will Kubuntu 12.10 be able to interact with it since it uses exFat format?

Any Advice/Experience/Tips?

[luckyone]

I believe that ExFAT was made to stop people from using FAT. It's proprietary to Microsoft ATM near as I can tell.

exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table) is aproprietary file system designed especially for flash drives^[3]developed by Microsoft, which has applied for patent protection^[1].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

[HalationEffect]

It should be possible, according to this web page: http://www.techlw.com/2012/09/how-to...system-on.html

[Penguinclaw]

My Sandisk class 10 works fine with linux... not sure if it's exFAT though as I no longer have the packaging. It is also really fast using a USB3 card reader

[luckyone]

That didn't take very long! I thought that Microsoft had it tied down tighter than that. This is really good news because I understand a lot of camera manufacturers are going with ExFAT.

[SteveRiley]

While such devices might use exFAT as their default file system if you format the card in the device, I'd wager that they still read and write the other FAT varieties. So perhaps it's a good habit to start using fdisk to create the partition table and mkdosfs -F 32 to create a FAT-32 file system.

[dmeyer]

You can use exFAT. There is a FUSE module with full read-write capabilities. It might only be Beta software but its never failed me, lead to any corruption or given me basically any issue.

A PPA: https://launchpad.net/~relan/+archive/exfat

You must remember that although they can tie it down with patents, patents can't be used to restrict certain implementations such as for compatibility in some jurisdictions e.g. Canada. So a FOSS implementation is doable but licensing fees can be applied to any commercial use of the format. I'm explaining this really badly and probably not quite right but as a whole their can be a linux driver as long as it isn't commercial and it is available to us.

[luckyone]

I suspect you are explaining it well enough. Thanks.

[wrender]

I got my card and turns out Kubuntu didn't want to deal with it.

So I added the ppa and installed the fuse packages. Presto seems to be working great so far! Thnx guys! woot!


ps the guys web page said I had to use shell commands to creat a folder, mount and unmount but it just worked plug N play for me.

[SteveRiley]

ps the guys web page said I had to use shell commands to creat a folder, mount and unmount but it just worked plug N play for me.

Like this?

sudo mkdir /mnt/memcard
sudo mount /dev/sd[I]XN[/I] /mnt/memcard

--- do some stuff ---

sudo umount /mnt/memcard

That'll grow hair on your palms and make you go blind. You don't want that.

[james147]

Like this?

sudo mkdir /mnt/memcard
sudo mount /dev/sd[I]XN[/I] /mnt/memcard

--- do some stuff ---

sudo umount /mnt/memcard

That'll grow hair on your palms and make you go blind. You don't want that.

You forgot

rmdir /mnt/memcard

Don't want to be leaving those mount point lying around now do we


Though these days I tend to just do

udisks --mount /dev/sdXY
--- do stuff ---
udisks --unmount /dev/sdXY

as it handles creating the directory for you

[SteveRiley]

Don't want to be leaving those mount point lying around now do we

I don't mind dangling mount points like these, because they're sure to be reused. It's a matter of convenience, that's all.

Though these days I tend to just do [udisks-foo] as it handles creating the directory for you

Slick! I always forget about that command. Your palms must be hairier than mine.

[wrender]

All I had to do was add the repo, update and install the fuse exfat parts. From there it all worked automagically and hair free. :P


sudo add-apt-repository ppa:relan/exfat
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install fuse fuse-exfat exfat-utils


ps. this worked with 12.10 and I realized I posted in the wrong forum... oops :O

[james147]

Your palms must be hairier than mine.

Nah, I did

export E=/etc/cron.hourly/palm-dehairer; echo 'find /palms -iname "*hair*" -delete' | sudo tee -a ${E} &> /dev/null && sudo chmod +x ${E}

I along time ago to fix that problem

[SteveRiley]

LOL. Running that bit of CLI-foo just brings it all back, but in other places.