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    Hello, I read today in the online Newsletter of the Linux Magazine an article (in German) which interests me: http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/Opu...c-von-der-IETF. It lead me then to a more detailed page now in English) http://www.xiph.org/press/2012/rfc-6716/. It seems to me that this new application might be very interesting for our audio codecs and there extremely important for the future.

    Will this codec be automatically included in the new Kubuntu? Or would I have to install it myself?

    If i interpret the Xiph page correct, does that mean there will be no need any longer for other codexes?

    Thanks for a bit of information.
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    Opus & Ubuntu

    It is available for the Quantal:

    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opus

    http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?ke...ll&section=all

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2031309
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      There's an interesting article about Opus over at Ars Technica too: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/...chat-to-music/

      Of the questions you've asked, the only one that I can address is whether or not there would be any need for other codecs... I'd say yes, as Opus doesn't really address high-bitrate / high quality needs for things such as one's music collection.
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        #4
        Originally posted by HalationEffect View Post
        Of the questions you've asked, the only one that I can address is whether or not there would be any need for other codecs... I'd say yes, as Opus doesn't really address high-bitrate / high quality needs for things such as one's music collection.

        According to your linked article (and the slashdot one) it most certainly does.

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          #5
          Originally posted by blackpaw View Post
          According to your linked article (and the slashdot one) it most certainly does.
          Depends on one's definition of high quality (for the purposes of one's music collection). I prefer not to use any lossy codec* - I rip my CDs to FLAC format, and transcode to mp3 for my portable music player device. If I ripped my CDs to Opus, I'd have to transcode from one lossy format to another for my mp3 player.

          * I realise that I should have made it clear in my initial post that this was my reason. Mea culpa
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            #6
            Originally posted by HalationEffect View Post
            ...I rip my CDs to FLAC format, and transcode to mp3 for my portable music player device. I
            Excuse my ignorance but wouldn't it be just the same as encoding to mp3 direct from CD?

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              Originally posted by HalationEffect View Post
              * I realise that I should have made it clear in my initial post that this was my reason. Mea culpa
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                #8
                Originally posted by nickstonefan View Post
                Excuse my ignorance but wouldn't it be just the same as encoding to mp3 direct from CD?
                Not for my purposes. The idea is to only ever take the CD out of its jewel case once (barring simultaneous data loss from 2 separate drives). When I play music on the PC, I play the FLAC files. When I want any particular tracks on my portable player, I convert those tracks to mp3 at a bit-rate suitable for the device. Over the years, I've had mp3 players that had storage capacities of 256MB, 1GB and currently 4GB, and the quality of the playback hardware (DAC, analog amp stage) has also improved. In the future, I'll almost certainly have even higher capacity devices, with even better quality. Whenever I get a better mp3 player, I've transcoded from the FLAC files to ever higher bit-rate mp3s, without needing to take the CDs out of their cases again.

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                  *bow* The Peace of Codd be upon your databases.

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                    I guess now that we have Stallman-ised versions of both Hail Mary and Our Father, we have more options when it comes to handing out penances
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                          #13
                          Heh, thankyouthankyou. Halation's Stallman's Prayer is quite well done, too. Perhaps we should enspire to scribe a geekible!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by steveriley View Post
                            heh, thankyouthankyou. Halation's stallman's prayer is quite well done, too. Perhaps we should enspire to scribe a geekible!


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                              #15
                              Originally posted by SteveRiley View Post
                              Heh, thankyouthankyou. Halation's Stallman's Prayer is quite well done, too. Perhaps we should enspire to scribe a geekible!
                              Oh no, there would always be a part of me terrified that in some post-apocalyptic future, somebody would get their hands on the geekible, take it seriously, and many atrocities would result
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