Confused about Firefox Kubuntu/KDE Instructions...

[wrender]

There is 13 pages worth of dialogue about using Firefox with KDE integration in Kubuntu 12.04.

http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthr...ox-KDE-support


I am confused what is recommended on what to do now.

From what I understand there was a user based ppa that contained the required packages, there was mention of disabling some official source, and now there is some Blue ppa.


With a fresh install what should one do to attain a KDE integrated and non distructive udating firefox with the recent developments?

[sumski]

For adding the Blue-shell PPA, see instructions on it's launchpad page:
https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde
For holding to that version instead of the official one:
http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthr...l=1#post305140

[wrender]

I don't fully understand the current situation of things with Firefox and Kubuntu. What is Blue-shell. How does it differ from what you were doing with your PPA and why does one have to "hold" one or the other? Can someone clarify the best solution and about it please?

[sumski]

For a version or two i had patched Firefox and kmozillahelper in my PPA. In the meantime blue-shell people started doing the same, so i dropped it.
So, if you want KDE filedialog's and sane mimetype recognition in ff, you can do as i wrote in my previous post. Holding is in case Firefox from Canonical get's updated before that one in the blue-shell PPA, so it doesn't get updated (you only get updates from b-s PPA) und you loose KDE integration.

[Arran]

And what exactly is the KDE integration? I tried it, but I can not see any difference.

[wrender]

Ok thanks for the help!

I found this link refering to the development.

http://www.thebluemint.net/2012/08/k...n-firefox.html




ps.So if Blue Systems is maintaining this package will it eventually become part of the Kubuntu default packages?

[Snowhog]

Not likely.

[Arran]

Thanks for the link. However, I have still not found where there should be anything different to the version I am using.

[ronw]

Quoting from the link wrender posted:

Kmozillahelper's job was to make Firefox's various native GTK+ dialogues look and act like native KDE dialogues.

"This is a helper application that allows Mozilla applications to use KDE file dialogs, file associations, protocol handlers and other KDE integration features."

[sumski]

[HalationEffect]

One of the easiest ways to see the difference between the KDE and GTK ways is to right-click on a picture to save it, only the KDE integrated system will give you a file save dialogue including a preview. (In the right hand panel)

This is why I'm a bit confused that the screenshots from www.thebluemint.net and the video that Sumski posted don't show the KDE style save & open dialogs. Instead, they showcase the non-KDE dialogs...

[sumski]

... the video that Sumski posted don't show the KDE style save & open dialogs. Instead, they showcase the non-KDE dialogs...

Hmm?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCt6BzFiDts#t=59s

[HalationEffect]

Hmm?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCt6BzFiDts#t=59s

My mistake, I must have got mixed up with some other video. But my point stands about the screenshots at thebluemint.net



That definitely isn't a native KDE dialog.

[sumski]

Don't know how it looks at the blue mint, but yes, on this one, it's gnome's fileficker.

[HalationEffect]

It makes me wonder... isn't there some kind of DE agnostic method of invoking a file-picker dialog? So that programs such as Firefox can just issue a generic call for a file-picker, and whatever DE it happens to be running under would just handle the request. It would completely remove the need for the kmozillahelper package, and for patched Firefox builds. Of course, it such a DE agnostic method does exist, the Mozilla devs would have to be convinced to use it...

And if it doesn't exist, it should! I wonder if it would be something that the fine people at freedesktop.org might be interested in.