KDE SC 4.8.4 Status

[OneLine]

Release annoncement

http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.8.4.php

Earlier Kubuntu forums

Path to the Ubuntu updates: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthr...9201-kde-4-8-4

Blocked/Regression

http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/11...ntu-devel.html

Riddell debfx: how's 4.8.4? 12:48
debfx blocked by https://bugs.kde.org/301453 12:49
ubottu KDE bug 301453 in general "nepomuk regression just after 4.8.3." [Critical,New: ] 12:49
Riddell debfx: oh nasty 12:49
debfx see also "KDE SC 4.8.4 important problems" on kde-core-devel 12:49

"KDE SC 4.8.4 important problems" on kde-core-devel"

kde.org Mailing Lists: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/
--> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-core-devel
-----> http://lists.kde.org/?t=133931393100003&r=1&w=2

[Guest]

When do you believe that 4.8.4 will be released over the backports channel to us?

[OneLine]

Only the kubuntu developers know (you could ask this from the kubuntu-devel irc)- but if you want my guess:

Taking a hammer:




A Guess

The KDE 4.8.4 may be available soon from the Kubuntu updates PPA /1/:

http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/13...ntu-devel.html

Riddell 4.8.4 needs moved out the way still then build in -ninjas? 17:21
Riddell 4.8.4 is in staging, lovely 17:22
ScottK 4.8.4 isn't ready for prime time due to kdelibs issues. 17:25
Riddell yeah I saw 17:25
ScottK However, I hear with kdelibs 4.8.3 the rest of 4.8.4 is ~fine. 17:26
ScottK It might work to move all but kde4libs to the updates PPA. 17:26

or maybe not...

debfx nah let's wait for a proper 4.8.4 fix 17:30
debfx especially since we can't move that to p-proposed 17:31
ScottK Debian is uploading kde4libs 4.8.3/KDE 4.8.4 to unstable, so they seem confident. 17:31
debfx well Debian is in a hurry to get 4.8 in before the freeze, we aren't 17:31
debfx are they going to upload a 4.8.4+really4.8.3? 17:33
yofel they seem to have tracked down the 4.8.4 issues down to some nepomuk/soprano socket issues 17:34
yofel (see k-c-d) 17:35
highvoltage debfx: when is debian freeze? is it a set date? 17:36
debfx highvoltage: they are targeting the second half of june 17:37

The KDE 4.8.3 testing and transition from the Kubuntu updates PPA to the Ubuntu updates did take about a month:

https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa:

kde-baseapps (4:4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) precise

Published on 2012-05-03

http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.3:

Packages for the May updates of the KDE Platform, Workspaces and Applications 4.8.3 are available for Kubuntu 12.04 in the official repositories.

Submitted on Thu, 2012-05-31

Links:

1. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa

“Package Archives for Kubuntu” team

Kubuntu Backports
Kubuntu Beta Backports
Kubuntu Experimental
Kubuntu Updates
Kubuntu Package Staging (DON'T USE)

[OneLine]

http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/15...ntu-devel.html

debfx I'll move 4.8.4 to the updates ppa once kde4libs finished building 17:46
Riddell debfx: problems got sorted? 17:46
debfx Riddell: yep, upstream reverted 2 commits 17:46

The announcement will be: http://www.kubuntu.org/

[wryfi]

Based on what I've read on the kde release-team mailing list[1], it looks like kde will probably roll a 4.8.5 release to fix the fatal flaws in 4.8.4. If I were a betting man, I would wager that kubuntu will skip 4.8.4 entirely and wait for 4.8.5.

[1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/releas...ne/005985.html

[eggbert]

I got to wonder if KDE actually has any form of quality assurance. There usually seems to be at least one regression between releases, and in this case its a real show stopper. I can appreciate that KDE is an enourmous project, and they are strapped for resources, but it seems pretty sad that a critial bug like this can get through.

Seems like this bug would have been spotted right off that bat with proper testing. Reading the mailing list, it looks like someone did a commit they shouldn't have. So I got to wonder:
Do they do unit testing, etc, and do they have a quality assurance team?

Don't know, just get the feeling sometimes that there is something not quite right with their development model.

[wryfi]

According to this article[1] from January, there is no official kde qa team, so that answers one of your questions.

That doesn't mean there is no testing, of course; and I don't know what their testing policy is.

It's actually quite impressive, however, to look at some of the stats cited in the article, in terms of the number of developers and amount of money going into KDE versus Gnome. With a much smaller team and fewer resources, KDE has been kicking ass, while Gnome has been busy alienating its community with Microsoft-style "features" (e.g. change for the sake of driving adoption).

So while release bugs are annoying in KDE as in any project, I think the KDE team is doing a fantastic job given the constraints they're working with.

Yes, a QA process would be helpful. Are you volunteering to head up the effort? ;-)

[1] http://eparrillae.net/wordpress/?p=736

[eggbert]

Unfortunately, don't really have the time or knowledge to be of much help I guess I can kick them a donation though.

[OneLine]

The KDE SC 4.8.4 packages have been moved to the Kubuntu updates PPA.

Note !
There is no official release announcement - at the moment: http://www.kubuntu.org/

---EDIT---

Release announcement: http://www.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-4.8.4

---EDIT---


At here:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

An Option

man ppa-purge

NAME
ppa-purge - disables a PPA and reverts to official packages

:~$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
Updating packages lists
PPA to be removed: kubuntu-ppa ppa
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
Package revert list generated:
akregator/precise ark/precise...
...umbrello/precise

Disabling kubuntu-ppa PPA from
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-ppa-precise.list
Updating packages lists
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
...
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 248 downgraded, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 92.7 MB/92.7 MB of archives.
After this operation, 528 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

[vw72]

The KDE SC 4.8.4 packages have been moved to the Kubuntu updates PPA.

Note !
There is no official release announcement - at the moment: http://www.kubuntu.org/

So do we know if the regression that is being discussed on the kde developer's list and prompting a quick release to 4.8.5 has been resolved?

[sumski]

2 commits that caused the issues are reverted upstream, and these fixes are applied to kdelibs packaged in the PPA:

kde4libs (4:4.8.4a-0ubuntu0.1~ppa2) precise; urgency=low * New upstream release.

* Update symbol files.

* Cherry-pick two commits from the upstream KDE/4.8.x branch so that kdelibs works with soprano 2.7.

- Add Revert_Always_rec-connect_if_forced.diff

- Add Revert_disconnect_before_re-connecting.diff

[OneLine]

http://www.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-4.8.4:

KDE Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform 4.8.4
Submitted on Sat, 2012-06-16


Packages for the release of the KDE Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform 4.8.4 are available for Kubuntu 12.04. You can get it from the Kubuntu Updates PPA until the packages are available in the official repositories.

Bugs in the packaging should be reported to kubuntu-ppa on Launchpad. Bugs in the software to KDE.

To update, use the Software Repository Guide to add the following repository to your software sources list:
ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa

Many thanks to Felix for driving this update.

[GreyGeek]

I just got an upgrade notice and when it was all done I was presented with a brand spanking new KDE 4.8.4 desktop!

No problems so far.

[blackpaw]

4.9 Beta is availble as well - dare we?

[Snowhog]

Sure. Go for it. We'll be watching you from the sidelines!