I have had it with Winblows but how do I save my files.

[steve7233]

Will wine let me use my windows settings for windows stuff or will i have to reconfigure my windows games and such and what about my personal files? I decided that linux (kubuntu) and wine were probably developed enough that i can finally get rid of this preteneder of an OS (Winblows) and install a real OS (kubuntu).

[Frank616]

Steve:

WINE is valuable for the Windows programs that it supports. It does NOT support all Windows programs, and games in particular are a problem for it.

Installing your Windows games in WINE may or may not work. However, yes, this will be a fresh install of those games, so all your previous settings in the Windows games will have to be re-created.

Can you tell us a little bit about your use of Windows, how you use your computer, and what you expect Linux to do for you? We can guide you better once we know what it is you want to accomplish.

Linux is a different OS than Windows, and has its own set of native applications -- and games. Windows software won't run on a Mac, and vice versa. The same is mostly true with Linux. Linux is much more versatile, but if you will be depending on Windows software, then you may need to run Windows. Some Windows software can be made to run on Linux with WINE or by running Windows itself on Linux in a virtual machine. The better solution, however, is to find native Linux replacements for your Windows software.

So, let us know what it is you want to accomplish, and we can offer some suggestions from there.

Frank.

[steve7233]

Steve:

WINE is valuable for the Windows programs that it supports. It does NOT support all Windows programs, and games in particular are a problem for it.

Installing your Windows games in WINE may or may not work. However, yes, this will be a fresh install of those games, so all your previous settings in the Windows games will have to be re-created.

Can you tell us a little bit about your use of Windows, how you use your computer, and what you expect Linux to do for you? We can guide you better once we know what it is you want to accomplish.

Linux is a different OS than Windows, and has its own set of native applications -- and games. Windows software won't run on a Mac, and vice versa. The same is mostly true with Linux. Linux is much more versatile, but if you will be depending on Windows software, then you may need to run Windows. Some Windows software can be made to run on Linux with WINE or by running Windows itself on Linux in a virtual machine. The better solution, however, is to find native Linux replacements for your Windows software.

So, let us know what it is you want to accomplish, and we can offer some suggestions from there.

Frank.

To be clear I have been using linux off and on since 2004. I started with a Distro called Ultima linux by Martin Ultima. Me and vinneywright met there and vinneywright is here too. Since vinneywright has so many post's on these forums then I am sure you aare familiar wwith him. I have also noticed that wine has gotten alot better since then and yes you can run Windows programs on a Mac, just get wine for Mac. I think wine also works with and on freeBSD to and I read on the wine bugs mailing list they also support Solaris. I have a buch of games that i will be running under wine, most of which i already used on wine before. I plan to do wordprocessing and spreadsheetss also. I have used abiword and open offfice org in the past. I installed kubuntu 12.04.1 on my ASUS Eee netbook PC modle 901. I am using that know to write this post. It's my HP pavilion dv6-1030us Entertainment Notebook PC that I am talking about. By the way the new Kubutu install on this netbook doesn't completely work as I can't get my wirless HP printer to work except for the usb part but not the wirless. HP photosmart b309a-m. I checked the HP hplip website and they don't even list this printer in their drop down menu for photo printer's! I think the wirless stufff in the new kubuntu version is flacky on this netbook or it could be this one computer has a hardware defect as connection manger sees it off and on!

By the way My brother and Grandpa are both named Frank

[Frank616]

Steve:

Yes, vinnywright is here, and will probably add to this post.

yes you can run Windows programs on a Mac, just get wine for Mac.

With the same limitations. You are far more into Linux than I gathered from your first post. My response was directed to someone that I thought might be a total newbie, and therefore I spoke in generalities until we knew more about you and your needs.

If you've used WINE already, then you know its limitations. And, if you managed to cram 12.04 onto an Eeepc901, then you won't need a lot of additional help. I too have an Eeepc901. I managed to get 12.04 onto the 4 GB SSD, but had to uninstall a number of larger programs to give the little drive enough elbow room to update the install. The first time I tried the update, it crashed and burned when it ran out of disk space in /, and I had to reinstall from scratch.

I think the wirless stufff in the new kubuntu version is flacky on this netbook or it could be this one computer has a hardware defect as connection manger sees it off and on!

Or it could be a lack of support for that printer in Linux from HP. However, I don't know enough to say for sure. My HP1020 USB printer now works on this Dell M6600 laptop after installing the hplip drivers, but installing and updating those drivers I found somewhat complicated. Other than that, all the printers I use are network connected, and they all work fine, either via ethernet, or via wifi.

Anyway, welcome to the Kubuntu forum! We hope we'll be able to give you the assistance you need to make Linux your preferred OS!

Frank.

[steve7233]

I already had Jaunty Jackalope with kde installed on my netbook so I just upgraded until I got to percise pangolin. There were several ttimes when it said there wasn't enough memory in \var to run the upgrade so, i went into konsol and did sudo apt-get clean. That cleaned up \var then i upgraded to the next version until i got percise pangolin. It ran out of memory at the end so when I rebooted the kde window animations messed up the display. I had to reboot to a konsol and do sudo apt-get clean and then enter reboot. That caused the netbook to reboot and then the display worked and everything else except for the wireless part of my printer.

[Snowhog]

You most likely also have a lot of installed kernels that you don't need, and which are taking up a lot of space in your root partition.

Open a console and type:

dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{print $2}'

This will identify all the installed kernels. Here, on my PC, it lists:

linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic
linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic
linux-image-generic

I only keep the current (in use) kernel and the previous one. Everything older is removed (saves space in the root partition). To remove 'older' kernels completely, the following command is issued:

sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x-xx-generic

where x.x.x-xx is replaced with the kernel version numbers. In the listing above, if I wanted to remove the 3.2.0-30 kernel, I would type:

sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic

DO NOT REMOVE linux-image-generic

[steve7233]

You most likely also have a lot of installed kernels that you don't need, and which are taking up a lot of space in your root partition.

Open a console and type:

dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{print $2}'

This will identify all the installed kernels. Here, on my PC, it lists:


I only keep the current (in use) kernel and the previous one. Everything older is removed (saves space in the root partition). To remove 'older' kernels completely, the following command is issued:

sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x-xx-generic

where x.x.x-xx is replaced with the kernel version numbers. In the listing above, if I wanted to remove the 3.2.0-30 kernel, I would type:

sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic

DO NOT REMOVE linux-image-generic

steve723@steve723-ASUS-Eee-PC-Netbook:~$ dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{print $2}'
linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic
linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic
linux-image-2.6.31-19-generic
linux-image-2.6.31-21-generic
linux-image-2.6.32-21-generic
linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic
linux-image-2.6.32-23-generic
linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic
linux-image-2.6.32-40-generic
linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic
linux-image-2.6.38-16-generic
linux-image-3.0.0-26-generic
linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic
linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic
linux-image-generic

Thanks for the tip. It looks like I can free a buch of memory on the SSD. [i]I wounder if i can by a larger SSD for this little guy.[\i]

[vinnywright]

well I see you can post now @steve7233 welcome back

I would do as @Snowhog has suggested and purge all of those kernels but 3.2.0-30 & -31 .....and not linux-image-generic of course either

that box rely only has 1 4Gig SSD .........shese you'll not get much installed in that

VINNY

[dibl]

The 901 has a 12G SSD, unlike my 4G/701 which had only 4. You could, if you wish, put a 16GB SDHC card in the SD card slot, and use that for /home, for example, or else symlink it into /home and use it for data storage. But it's true that there won't be a lot of video-viewing on that particular netbook.

[steve7233]

The 901 has a 12G SSD, unlike my 4G/701 which had only 4. You could, if you wish, put a 16GB SDHC card in the SD card slot, and use that for /home, for example, or else symlink it into /home and use it for data storage. But it's true that there won't be a lot of video-viewing on that particular netbook.

I also have an external USB 300 Gig Hard drive. Actualy Thir are two SSD drives in the 901. I fforgot what size they are but it's not much I think it's 12 or 16 G total. That's not much either way but you can do a few things such as email and wordprocessing and other such things. It can play frozen bubble and a few simple things. I think the dual GPU has something like 8 bits on each data bus so, no great graphics. I haven't tried aany streaming videos probably just stills. Stills look great but then i have an 20" 1680X1050 resolution monitor hooked up to the VGA port. The monitor has a VGA and a VDI port and can do 1080p, also 3000:1 dynamic contrast Ratio. Eveen on VGA pictures look great. Of course the little guy's GPU's could never handle DVI any way.

I am also a Linux registered user. I lost the graphic though.

[steve7233]

Can linux read a Live File system - Allows you to add and erase files, like a USB flash drive?
I think it can.

[steve7233]

Yes, it can delete files in the live system and cause all kinds of issues 8)
When running a Live CD/USB and provided there is enough RAM you can install extra packages.
When the USB drive has a so called Persistent partition you can even keep them until the next boot.

It appears you have miss understood me. When i typed " Allows you to add and erase files, like a USB flash drive?", i was quoting from the Microsoft Windows vista home 64bit help file about CD and DVD file systems. I was thinking i might be able to copy my personal files from Windows to kubuntu. I write the files to disk and then install kubuntu wiping out that terrible OS in the process, then i use the CD's to copy my personal files back to the hard drive so that kate or whatever can open them.

[steve7233]

Of course you can, running a Live version of any OS gives you similar (but not the same) power as running a regular install.
The biggest difference is the lack of a sudo being a security hole so you don't want to keep it on line for ever.
I've done it it the past, boot up on a USB stick and connect external drives to copy stuff.

In the case of a proper OS you have to be aware that by the time you've put the copied files back on a new system their ownership might need adjustment.
But providing you've installed the root actions as a service in Dolphin that's just a right-click away.

Hmm, Ok Ill try to explain it again. On my note book I have Windows Vista Home 64bit installed. I want to replace it with kubuntu 12.04 then upgrade to 12.04.1 (I thought I was downloading 12.04.1 but it turned out it was 12.04. It seems you can get a 12.04.1 CD but, only 12.04 for the DVD.) It has a lot of personal files on it so, I need to make copies of them so, i can move them to the new kubuntu install. I was going to use disks which is why I asked if i could use a live file system, which lets you copie files without having to close the session. However I have decided that since its overr 40 Gigs of files then I will wait a few days to get paid again then order a portable hard drive from amazon.com and use that to copy the files.

[NickStone]

Yes you can back-up your data to other media providing you are able to connect that media to your computer. i.e. If you use a liveCD or liveDVD to boot up your computer and providing you have a spare DVD-RW drive you can backup your data to several DVD-RW disks.

And the good thing about DVD-RW is that once you have no use for what's on the disk it can be blanked and re-used. I also believe that Brasero can write to a CD or DVD and keep it open. K3B might also have that option but not sure.

I hope that this has answered your question.

[Frank616]

Steve:

I have decided that since its overr 40 Gigs of files then I will wait a few days to get paid again then order a portable hard drive from amazon.com and use that to copy the files.

Good move. I hate optical media. They are slow, and are easily damaged.

I have an external hard drive adapter that is very useful. USB 2, Fireware, and eSATA. It says that it is for 5 1/4 and 3.5" drives, but it will take a 2.5" laptop drive as well, as the SATA connector is identical. I am away from home at the moment, so don't have it with me, and I can't remember the make. I'll try to remember to give you that info if you need it when we get back again next week.

If you format the external drive as FAT32, you don't end up with any ownership problems when you copy back to your Kubuntu drive. That is all handled transparently by Linux, which assumes that all the files you copy to /home should belong to that user. I use that trick often with a USB stick.

Frank.