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**GreyGeek** · Jan 10, 2012, 06:31 AM

Re: Precise and Mono!

The culprit which sucked in the Mono API was banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore. Just for grins I ran Banshee to see what it was like. The frame of the GUI appeared, but nothing else of the app. At the same instant Kamil's login dialog appeared, but it was frozen. Fortunately, when I clicked the "X" Banshee went away and Kmail's login dialog was interactive again.

Removing the mono-runtime caused all of Mono to be selected and removed. I checked UbuntuOne Control Center app and noticed that the file syncing was significantly faster, but the panel offering a signup to the Music Store was missing.

For the noobs: Why did I remove Mono?

James Plamondon, former head of Microsoft's Technical Evangelists, wrote that Microsoft's goal to to put the Microsoft API on every desktop, "Every application written to some other standard is a defeat for Microsoft, every application written to Microsoft's standards is a victory for Microsoft." Mono is written to Microsoft's standards, is licensed by Microsoft, and is Microsoft's API.

Mark Shuttleworth wrote "If Microsoft's API becomes the default on the Linux desktop, what is the purpose of Linux?" Excellent question.

And, I don't need Banshee and I am not going to be buying stuff at UbuntuOne's music store.

**The Liquidator** · Jan 10, 2012, 07:08 AM

Re: Precise and Mono!

Originally posted by GreyGeek

And, I don't need Banshee and I am not going to be buying stuff at UbuntuOne's music store.

Especially when with Amarok you can now buy from Amazon and, according to the developers, you will be able to buy from within the player itself.

**jpenguin** · Jan 18, 2012, 04:29 PM

Re: Precise and Mono!

I think I'll stick with drobpbox and box.net. I have 2.25GB & 50GB in those, all free

Sign up for dropbox-- http://db.tt/2Au2JDAi

box.net webdav-- https://www.box.net/dav

**doctordruidphd** · Jan 19, 2012, 09:24 PM

Re: Precise and Mono!

sudo apt-get remove --purge mono-runtime
echo "mono-runtime hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections

and you'll never see mono, or anything that depends on it, again, witness:

Code:

greenman@Wolfenstein:/$ sudo apt-get install banshee
[sudo] password for greenman: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree    
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 banshee : Depends: mono-runtime (>= 2.10.1) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libdbus-glib1.0-cil (>= 0.5) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libdbus1.0-cil (>= 0.7) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libgconf2.0-cil (>= 2.24.0) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libgdata1.7-cil (>= 1.7.0.1) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libgkeyfile1.0-cil but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.12.10-1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libgtk-sharp-beans-cil but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libgtk2.0-cil (>= 2.12.10-1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libgudev1.0-cil (>= 0.1) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libmono-addins0.2-cil (>= 0.6) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libmono-cairo4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libmono-corlib4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libmono-posix4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libmono-sharpzip4.84-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libmono-system-core4.0-cil (>= 2.10.3) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libmono-system-xml4.0-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libmono-system4.0-cil (>= 2.10.1) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libmono-zeroconf1.0-cil (>= 0.9.0) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libnotify0.4-cil (>= 0.4.0~r2998) but it is not going to be installed
      Depends: libtaglib2.0-cil (>= 2.0.3.7+dfsg) but it is not going to be installed
      Recommends: banshee-extension-soundmenu (= 2.2.1-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

**jpenguin** · Jan 20, 2012, 01:05 PM

Re: Precise and Mono!

I hate that supertux choose to use mono for their editor

**GreyGeek** · Jan 20, 2012, 05:05 PM

Re: Precise and Mono!

Originally posted by jpenguin

I hate that supertux choose to use mono for their editor

Perhaps they should be convinced to take "tux" out of their name?

Since Novell was sold off and de Icaza and his group of Mono developers were laid off, De Icaza had to form his own company and has chosen to write software based on Mono for the iPhone/iPad and Android markets, not Linux. Add to that the fact that Microsoft is leaving .NET behind in favor of HTML5 and you are hearing the bells that toll the end for Mono. All that time, money, resources and energy Linux developers wasted learning Mono and writing apps for it ... gone.

I think the death kneel was sounded for .NET (hence Mono) when the trading software written by Microsoft and Acenture for the London Stock Exchange blew up and cost the LSE over $1 BILLION dollars. They bought a Linux solution which had a five year record of stability and speed exceeding the goals set for the .NET solution and switched to it. IF Microsoft, who wrote .NET and knows all the undocumented features, holes, traps, etc..., can't write an app that is stable and can barely reach 1/5th of their stated transaction speed then the question is: Who can?

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