We're not talking about "Muon Package Manager" but about "Muon Update Manager", that is the one which opens when you click in the System Tray icon.
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Pan-Galactic QuordlepleenSo Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
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Ah. I don't have that portion of Muon installed. I prefer to manage updates manually, so I've removed all automatic update mechanisms.
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That's the appearance of the Muon Update Manager:
As you can see there's no packages names, only descriptions, and as you can see in this example 3 packages have exactly the same description.
There's no way in any menu item or preferences to show the package names.
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Pan-Galactic QuordlepleenSo Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
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Sorry if this has already been discussed but the Muon Package Manager doesn't remember my UI settings on Kubuntu 12.04.
Example 1:
If I click on a package in the package list, a box appears at the bottom of the screen which has several tabs on it. If I move the horizontal divider up the screen by one inch, exit Muon and then re-start it, the horizontal divider is back at its default location.
Example2:
When I fire up the Muon Package Manager, the left-hand pane is listing packages "By Category". I then click on "By Status", exit Muon and then re-start it, the left-hand pane is listing "By Category" again.
It would be nice if my UI settings were rememberedKubuntu User #9802
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Originally posted by melendro View PostAs you can see there's no packages names, only descriptions, and as you can see in this example 3 packages have exactly the same description.
http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=102609
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Besides many other valid points that have already been mentioned by others (like having a console window showing what's actually going on, like in Synaptic), what always bothered me about Muon is its very uninformative package list window (current version 1.4 here).
All you can see is the package name and description, and that's it. The rest of horizontal space is wasted for nonsense: "Status" and Requested".
"Status" should be indicated by the icon at the very left, which currently has no purpose and always is the very same Deb package icon. Replace that useless icon by an icon showing the status, that is, different icons for "not installed", "installed", etc. The "Requested" info could better be presented by underlying the line with a user-configurable colour, or if you don't like that, put a second icon for "Requested" right next to the "Status" icon.
If you don't have the gfx skills to create such icons, I could offer myself to create them.
Once the wasted space is reclaimed, you could add in actually important info that is seriously lacking now, like "Version installed", "Version avaiable", and "Download size".
Something else that would make the package list more presentable is putting the package names in bold, so you can better distinct them from the description right below them.
edit: I didn't mean to drop the sort functionality for status of packages, of course. You could still sort by package status then by clicking on the package icon column, just like you can in Synaptic.Last edited by Shimapan; Sep 25, 2012, 04:13 PM.Kubuntu Raring Ringtail x64 w/ Kde 4.10.5
Multimedia packages for Kubuntu x64 (x264 10bit, mplayer2, Aegisub etc.)
http://erokawaii.org/?page_id=5181
My stuff on kde-look.org
http://kde-look.org/usermanager/sear...ction=contents
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+1 on the search function. The current search looks almost random, but I don't remember synaptic being any better at it. I used to use kpackagekit along side synaptic until switching to Kubuntu.
I've had enough trouble with Muon to date that I usually use the terminal to do my updating.
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Originally posted by TeunisI don't quite understand your issue with the status column, I find it quite a handy way to select on the various 'status' of the listed packages.
In my opinion, it's a very poor design choice to waste so much space for "Status" and "Requested", when the same could be accomplished using much less space, so you have the space for actually important info.Kubuntu Raring Ringtail x64 w/ Kde 4.10.5
Multimedia packages for Kubuntu x64 (x264 10bit, mplayer2, Aegisub etc.)
http://erokawaii.org/?page_id=5181
My stuff on kde-look.org
http://kde-look.org/usermanager/sear...ction=contents
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