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    #1

    [solved] Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

    Hi there.

    I'm using kubuntu 11.10 and I currently have the 3.0.0.12.14 kernel. From oneiric-updates there is a newer kernel (linux-image-generic) 3.0.0.14.16 but if I select that I want to update to this kernel the system selects 264 additional packages for installation (including Japan, Chinese and more languages), wants to remove the grub2 and install the grub legacy and several other wired things.

    Any one any idea?
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    #2
    Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

    It really should not. Are you using any of the "muon " suite for the update ? If so, install synaptic, press the reload button, press the "Mark all upgrades button" then, go to "custom filters" on the bottom-left button bar and then click on the "marked changes" filter. Do you still get 200 packages for the update ?

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      #3
      Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

      What repositories do you have turned on ?

      At here, if i turn the proposed /1/, /2/ repository on and :

      Code:
      sudo apt-get update
      &
      Code:
      apt-get -s dist-upgrade
      NOTE: This is only a simulation!
      apt-get needs root privileges for real execution.
      Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
      so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
      Reading package lists... Done
      Building dependency tree
      Reading state information... Done
      Calculating upgrade... Done
      The following packages will be upgraded:
      akregator amarok amarok-common amarok-utils ark bzr...

      297 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
      The KDE 4.7.3 is in the Oneiric proposed updates. It is waiting the testing /3/ and move to the Ubuntu updates.


      Repositories:

      1. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuUpdates
      2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
      3. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ku...er/005726.html
      Have you tried ?

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        #4
        Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

        I do using muon suite.
        I do not have access to the system now. I'll test synaptic and I'll get back tomorrow.
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          #5
          Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

          By using synaptics, did not help. The same result.

          Here is my repositories:
          cd /etc/apt; egrep '^deb ' sources.list sources.list.d/*list | cut -d: -f 2-
          deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric main restricted
          deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric-updates main restricted
          deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric universe
          deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric-updates universe
          deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric multiverse
          deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric-updates multiverse
          deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-security main restricted
          deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-security universe
          deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-security multiverse
          deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ oneiric partner
          deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric main
          deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ oneiric free non-free
          See also this:
          # apt-get -s upgrade
          Reading package lists... Done
          Building dependency tree
          Reading state information... Done
          The following packages have been kept back:
          linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
          0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.

          # apt-get upgrade
          Reading package lists... Done
          Building dependency tree
          Reading state information... Done
          The following packages have been kept back:
          linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
          0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
          Any idea?
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            #6
            Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

            Let's take a look at what APT thinks its options are. Please show us:

            apt-cache policy linux-generic
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              #7
              Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

              Here it is:
              Code:
              # apt-cache policy linux-generic
linux-generic:
 Installed: 3.0.0.12.14
 Candidate: 3.0.0.14.16
 Version table:
   3.0.0.14.16 0
    500 [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] oneiric-updates/main amd64 Packages
    500 [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] oneiric-security/main amd64 Packages
 *** 3.0.0.12.14 0
    500 [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] oneiric/main amd64 Packages
    100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
              I'm out of ideas...
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                #8
                Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

                Can you show us the output of

                Code:
                sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s
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                  #9
                  Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

                  Here it is:
                  Code:
                  # apt-get update
Ign [url]http://security.ubuntu.com[/url] oneiric-security InRelease
Ign [url]http://archive.canonical.com[/url] oneiric InRelease               
....
Ign [url]http://packages.medibuntu.org[/url] oneiric/non-free Translation-en       
Ign [url]http://packages.medibuntu.org[/url] oneiric/non-free Translation-el       
Fetched 72 B in 6s (10 B/s)                          
Reading package lists... Done

# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree    
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree    
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 anthy anthy-common attr auctex btrfs-tools catdvi cl-asdf cl-swank clisp
 clisp-dev clisp-doc cm-super cm-super-minimal common-lisp-controller darcs
 db-util db5.1-util dblatex debhelper debiandoc-sgml debiandoc-sgml-doc
 dh-make doc-base docbook docbook-defguide docbook-dsssl docbook-dsssl-doc
 docbook-mathml docbook-utils dot2tex dovecot-common dvidvi dvipng emacs23
 emacs23-bin-common emacs23-common emacs23-el fdutils feynmf fragmaster
 graphviz graphviz-doc groff grub-legacy-doc iamerican ienglish-common ispell
 jadetex jfsutils kernel-package ko.tex-extra-hlfont lacheck latex-beamer
 latex-cjk-all latex-cjk-chinese latex-cjk-chinese-arphic-bkai00mp
 latex-cjk-chinese-arphic-bsmi00lp latex-cjk-chinese-arphic-gbsn00lp
 latex-cjk-chinese-arphic-gkai00mp latex-cjk-common latex-cjk-japanese
 latex-cjk-japanese-wadalab latex-cjk-korean latex-cjk-thai latex-cjk-xcjk
 latex-sanskrit latex-xcolor latexmk libanthy0 libauthen-sasl-perl libcdb1
 libcgraph5 libconvert-asn1-perl libdigest-hmac-perl libdw1 libffcall1
 libfile-which-perl libgssapi-perl libgvpr1 libkpathsea5 libm17n-0
 libmagick++3 libncurses5-dev libnet-ldap-perl libopagent1 libopts25 libosp5
 libostyle1c2 libotf0 libplot2c2 libpq5 libpstoedit0c2a libqt3-mt
 libqt3-mt-mysql libqt3-mt-odbc libqt3-mt-psql libroman-perl libsgmls-perl
 libsp1c2 libt1-5 libtext-format-perl libtinfo-dev libuuid-perl
 libxml-namespacesupport-perl libxml-sax-expat-perl libxml-sax-perl
 libyaml-tiny-perl linux-headers-3.0.0-14 linux-headers-3.0.0-14-generic
 linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic linux-source-3.0.0 linux-tools
 linux-tools-3.0.0-14 linux-tools-common linuxdoc-tools linuxdoc-tools-info
 linuxdoc-tools-latex linuxdoc-tools-text lmodern luatex m17n-contrib m17n-db
 m17n-docs mcelog mdadm ncurses-doc ntp ntp-doc openjade opensp oprofile
 oprofile-gui perl-tk pfb2t1c2pfb pgf postfix postfix-cdb postfix-ldap
 postfix-mysql postfix-pcre postfix-pgsql preview-latex-style procmail
 prosper ps2eps psgml pstoedit psutils purifyeps python-pyparsing quota
 realpath sasl2-bin sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source scalable-cyrfonts-tex sgmls-doc
 sgmlspl slime sp spell squashfs-tools swath t1-cyrillic t1-oldslavic
 t1-teams t1utils tex-common texinfo texinfo-doc-nonfree texlive texlive-base
 texlive-bibtex-extra texlive-binaries texlive-common texlive-doc-base
 texlive-doc-en texlive-extra-utils texlive-font-utils texlive-fonts-extra
 texlive-fonts-extra-doc texlive-fonts-recommended
 texlive-fonts-recommended-doc texlive-generic-recommended
 texlive-lang-african texlive-lang-all texlive-lang-arabic
 texlive-lang-armenian texlive-lang-croatian texlive-lang-cyrillic
 texlive-lang-czechslovak texlive-lang-danish texlive-lang-dutch
 texlive-lang-finnish texlive-lang-french texlive-lang-german
 texlive-lang-greek texlive-lang-hebrew texlive-lang-hungarian
 texlive-lang-indic texlive-lang-italian texlive-lang-latin
 texlive-lang-latvian texlive-lang-lithuanian texlive-lang-mongolian
 texlive-lang-norwegian texlive-lang-other texlive-lang-polish
 texlive-lang-portuguese texlive-lang-spanish texlive-lang-swedish
 texlive-lang-tibetan texlive-lang-ukenglish texlive-lang-vietnamese
 texlive-latex-base texlive-latex-base-doc texlive-latex-extra
 texlive-latex-extra-doc texlive-latex-recommended
 texlive-latex-recommended-doc texlive-luatex texlive-math-extra
 texlive-metapost texlive-metapost-doc texlive-pictures texlive-pictures-doc
 texlive-pstricks texlive-pstricks-doc texlive-xetex texpower
 texpower-examples texpower-manual thailatex tipa transfig
 ttf-arphic-bkai00mp ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp
 ttf-arphic-gkai00mp ttf-arphic-ukai ttf-arphic-uming ttf-baekmuk
 ttf-dejima-mincho ttf-kiloji ttf-sazanami-gothic ttf-sazanami-mincho
 ttf-thai-tlwg ttf-unfonts-core ttf-unfonts-extra ttf-vlgothic ttf-wqy-zenhei
 w3-dtd-mathml w3c-dtd-xhtml xaw3dg xfig xfig-doc xfig-libs xfs xfsdump
 xfsprogs xindy xindy-rules xmltex xmlto xsltproc
The following packages will be upgraded:
 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
3 upgraded, 266 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1210 MB of archives.
After this operation, 2478 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.
                  The point is that I do not want all these packages... (e.g. anthy, or texlive-lang-african)
                  Why is that?
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                    #10
                    Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

                    I would suppose that you recently (deliberately or inadvertently) installed packages that have dependencies on these additional packages, but for some reason did not pull them in at that time. Maybe you used a downloaded .deb package instead of the APT system.

                    You can use
                    Code:
                    sudo apt-cache redepends <packagename>
                    to investigate.

                    For example:

                    Code:
                    don@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache policy texlive
texlive:
 Installed: (none)
 Candidate: 2009-13
 Version table:
   2009-13 0
    500 [url]http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[/url] oneiric/main amd64 Packages
don@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache rdepends texlive
texlive
Reverse Depends:
 gedit-latex-plugin
 tth-common
 tk-brief
 science-typesetting
 pal
 mgp
 mathtex
 magicfilter
 libdvilib2-16
 latexila
 kile
 ikiwiki
 grisbi
 gedit-latex-plugin
 eukleides
 dvilx
 dvifb
 chemeq
 cadabra
 texlive-common
 koffice-libs
 debiandoc-sgml
 dblatex
don@ubuntu:~$
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                      #11
                      Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

                      So, I have a lot of investigation, in order to identify which is the "problematic" package.

                      I'll inform you when I'll find it.
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                        #12
                        Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

                        Have you tinkered with your apt configuration recently?

                        At first glance, it looks like your system is configured to also install "suggested" packages as dependencies automatically (usually not a good idea).

                        By default, *buntus treat "recommended" packages as dependencies, but not "suggested", so this should not happen unless apt configuration has been changed.
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                          Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

                          just as a comment and not worth anything more than that, but i have had, about every....maybe two or three days.....

                          a LOT of "updates"....

                          the last one was probably twenty packages for cups....

                          just a comment.

                          woodsmoke
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                            #14
                            Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

                            Originally posted by woodsmoke
                            just as a comment and not worth anything more than that, but i have had, about every....maybe two or three days.....

                            a LOT of "updates"....

                            the last one was probably twenty packages for cups....

                            just a comment.
                            Regular updates is a somewhat different thing than a kernel upgrade wishing to install hundreds of additional packages.

                            Does Muon have tickbox for "Treat suggested packages as dependencies"? (I don't use Muon, so I don't know). If it does, unticking it should solve the issue for asyr.
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                              Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

                              Originally posted by kubicle

                              Does Muon have tickbox for "Treat suggested packages as dependencies"? (I don't use Muon, so I don't know). If it does, unticking it should solve the issue for asyr.
                              But a setting in Muon should not affect apt-get's behavior in a terminal, right? See the dist-upgrade result above?

                              I'm thinking a downloaded debian package was installed (forced) with dpkg, and didn't get its dependencies at the time.
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