[solved] Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

[kubicle]

Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

Does Muon have tickbox for "Treat suggested packages as dependencies"? (I don't use Muon, so I don't know). If it does, unticking it should solve the issue for asyr.

But a setting in Muon should not affect apt-get's behavior in a terminal, right?

I'm pretty sure it does. Having separate configuration for cli and GUI package manager would make no sense as these *need* to behave consistently (and the developer seems like a level-headed guy)

Again, I can't check, but I'd suspect Muon writes it's apt configuration in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ where it will also be picked up by apt-get when used from the command line.

[dibl]

Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

Again, I can't check, but I'd suspect Muon writes it's apt configuration in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ where it will also be picked up by apt-get when used from the command line.

That makes sense -- in Muon's "Settings > Configure Package Manager > General" is a checkbox for "Treat Suggested Packages As Dependencies", and that does look like what is going on with the OP's system.

However, the mechanism does not appear to be a change in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/. I ran the experiment on my system. In the terminal I listed the contents of that directory, then I ticked the checkbox, "applied", and hit the "check for updates" button. After Muon finished the repo search and rebuilt its index, I re-listed the contents of /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/, and as you can see, nothing changed there. So ..... I dunno -- must be more to the story of how it works.

don@ubuntu:/etc/apt/apt.conf.d$ ls -la
total 48
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-10-18 10:37 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2011-12-17 06:59 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  40 2011-08-02 17:37 00trustcdrom
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 430 2011-06-09 08:19 01autoremove
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 168 2011-12-16 14:29 10periodic
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 108 2008-11-11 06:19 15update-stamp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  85 2008-11-11 06:19 20archive
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123 2011-08-01 09:39 20changelog
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 243 2009-12-16 03:02 20dbus
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1921 2011-04-12 05:22 50unattended-upgrades
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182 2011-02-20 05:25 70debconf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 231 2010-06-01 09:19 99update-notifier
[email]don@ubuntu:/etc/apt/apt.conf[/email].d$ ls -la
total 48
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-10-18 10:37 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2011-12-17 06:59 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  40 2011-08-02 17:37 00trustcdrom
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 430 2011-06-09 08:19 01autoremove
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 168 2011-12-16 14:29 10periodic
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 108 2008-11-11 06:19 15update-stamp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  85 2008-11-11 06:19 20archive
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123 2011-08-01 09:39 20changelog
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 243 2009-12-16 03:02 20dbus
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1921 2011-04-12 05:22 50unattended-upgrades
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182 2011-02-20 05:25 70debconf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 231 2010-06-01 09:19 99update-notifier
[email]don@ubuntu:/etc/apt/apt.conf[/email].d$

EDIT: Aha -- it is the file /etc/apt/apt.conf. In the default Muon configuration (i.e. "Treat Suggested ..." is NOT ticked), the file is like this:

don@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ cat apt.conf
APT::Install-Suggests "false";

When the checkbox is ticked and "Applied", the file changes to this:

don@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ cat apt.conf
APT::Install-Suggests "true";

So that would control apt-get's function as well as the GUI front end.

[asyr]

Re: Kernel update requires more than 200 additional packages

Guys (especially kubicle) thanks a lot !!!

The problem was the "Treat Suggested Packages As Dependencies" at muon.
When unchecked, the '...more than 200 packages' are not yet dependencies for the kernel upgrade !!!