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    automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

    Now I have an apt question of my own...

    I have a bunch of ppa files in /etc/sources.list.d which I manually updated from natty to oneiric.

    Some program took all of those files, emptied the repository lines from them, put them in new files with the -oneiric.list suffix, and commented the lines out.

    Allright, it's cool that something does that "for me", but maybe not what I want always. For example, it whacked the lines in the kde-goodies ppa list file, which is an active repository at the moment.

    What program does this, and is there a way to control its behavior, or at least know when it's going to do this?
    We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking
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    Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

    I believe update-manager disables the PPA's when you start a full distribution upgrade (Natty to Oneiric in this case). It 's done so that there is no possibly conflicting versions or dependency hell.
    The unjust distribution of goods persists, creating a situation of social sin that cries out to Heaven and limits the possibilities of a fuller life for so many of our brothers. -- Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires (now Pope Francis)
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      Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

      I'm pretty sure I never ran update-manager, certainly not in the past few days. Nor did I do anything like that with synaptic or muon.

      I always do the upgrade manually, changing the repositories by hand. That was done several months ago, when oneiric first went live.
      We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking
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        Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

        Originally posted by doctordruidphd
        I always do the upgrade manually, changing the repositories by hand. That was done several months ago, when oneiric first went live.
        I've seen this suggestion several times, but have avoided it in the past because it seems, well, kind of hackish. I really don't want to do a full re-install when Oneiric goes live, I'd much rather upgrade in place. Do you have any thoughts of doing it this way vs. dist-upgrade vs. do-release-upgrade?
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          Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

          Steve if you have already installed 11.10, then apt-get dist-upgrade will bring it up to the current version configuration, and if you do that at the time that Oneiric is released, then you will have Oneiric. You need do-release-upgrade to go from 11.04 to 11.10 -- you can't dist-upgrade to a new version.
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            Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

            Ah, I see. I thought that dist-upgrade would be the command-line equivalent of the "Network upgrade for Ubuntu desktops" section on the upgrades page, but only once a new version was officially released. Plus, this page on ubuntuguide.org says dist-upgrade works for Lucid to Natty...
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              Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

              I really don't want to do a full re-install when Oneiric goes live
              My sentiments exactly. The idea of starting over from scratch every 6 months is, in my opinion, an unacceptable waste of time and effort. To be sure, there are quite a few bumps on the road of upgrading from one release to another, but it beats re-doing the whole thing.

              Hoping ubuntu's proposed rolling release model comes to fruition.
              We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking
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                Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

                Originally posted by SteveRiley
                Plus, this page on ubuntuguide.org says dist-upgrade works for Lucid to Natty...
                That guidance is screwed up. dist-upgrade has no way of knowing that the repositories need to be swapped out for the new version, for example.
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                  Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

                  I had a suspicion that was the case.

                  Previously, I've paved and rebuilt when going from Lucid to Maverick and from Maverick to Natty. In neither case was I using Linux for regular work. But now that this Natty laptop has become my daily driver, and I've made so many tweaks and changes, I'm going to try my first release upgrade.

                  (Guess I should have documented each and every change I made. Ah well, live and learn.)
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                    Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

                    I'm going to try my first release upgrade
                    Please, before you discover the wisdom behind it for yourself:

                    Backup everything before doing anything.

                    Reread the above until you not only understand, but BELIEVE!

                    Or else, you will...

                    Yeah, OK, everyone knows that, but it's especially important when moving from one release to another. Even if the move messes up, you can usually fix it, but your blood pressure will thank you for having that disk safely tucked away.

                    That all being said, since I haven't figured out yet who "fixed" my repository list, I would still do it myself. Make a backup of your /etc/apt/sources.list file and /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory, then use the rpl utility to change everything from natty to oneiric. Then when you do the dist-upgrade, it actually will upgrade the release. Note that most of your ppas won't work yet, so you will get a lot of errors near the end of your apt-get update to the effect that repositories haven't been found. Nothing really to worry about.

                    Good luck with it.
                    We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking
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                      Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

                      Originally posted by doctordruidphd
                      Backup everything before doing anything.

                      Reread the above until you not only understand, but BELIEVE!
                      Doesn't everyone run a nightly cron job to back up their systems to a little server stashed away in the first floor closet datacenter?

                      Originally posted by doctordruidphd
                      Make a backup of your /etc/apt/sources.list file and /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory, then use the rpl utility to change everything from natty to oneiric. Then when you do the dist-upgrade, it actually will upgrade the release.
                      I am still curious to understand the differences between this approach and running do-release-upgrade. Guess I'll have to engage in a bit of research on that one.
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                        Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

                        I am still curious to understand the differences between this approach and running do-release-upgrade.
                        Bottom line, I've never used do-release-upgrade.
                        Let us know how it goes.
                        We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking
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                          Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

                          my old mane box ........LOL

                          got the "do-release-upgrade" every ver between 9.04 and 10.04 (ware it is now)maby even 8.04(cant remember) and is still sitting in the back room feeding me my file collection via NFS & my wireless LAN 8)
                          and still runs well.

                          VINNY
                          i7 4core HT 8MB L3 2.9GHz
                          16GB RAM
                          Nvidia GTX 860M 4GB RAM 1152 cuda cores
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                            Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

                            Originally posted by doctordruidphd
                            I really don't want to do a full re-install when Oneiric goes live
                            My sentiments exactly. The idea of starting over from scratch every 6 months is, in my opinion, an unacceptable waste of time and effort. To be sure, there are quite a few bumps on the road of upgrading from one release to another, but it beats re-doing the whole thing.

                            Hoping ubuntu's proposed rolling release model comes to fruition.
                            Ubuntu might just be doing that. So far I haven't heard anything about the next version's codename yet. I could be wrong, though
                            The unjust distribution of goods persists, creating a situation of social sin that cries out to Heaven and limits the possibilities of a fuller life for so many of our brothers. -- Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires (now Pope Francis)
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                              #15
                              Re: automatic updating of ppa .list files - whodunnit?

                              Originally posted by bsniadajewski
                              Ubuntu might just be doing that. So far I haven't heard anything about the next version's codename yet. I could be wrong, though
                              I'm curious what they're going to do after Zealous Zebra. Invent more letters?
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