OpenOffice INSTEAD of Libreoffice.

[Tanner1294]

Anyone know how to install JUST OpenOffice.org and not LibreOffice? I know that the base is the same thing but I prefer OpenOffice.

[claydoh]

Re: OpenOffice INSTEAD of Libreoffice.

You would have to first completely uninstall libreoffice, then go and download Openoffice from their website and manually install it

There are ppa's with OOo, though I can't vouch for their completeness or quality
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?n...ter=openoffice

[oshunluvr]

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I did it no problem. OOO 3.4 beta is out too, but I'm using 3.3

[GreyGeek]

Re: OpenOffice INSTEAD of Libreoffice.

Moving to OOo from LibraOO probably wouldn't make much sense in the long run. Libra has captured market share during the short time it has been out and Oracle has dumped OOo into Apache's lap. I'm not sure what Apache is going to do with it.

LibraOffice:

The LibreOffice project uses a dual LGPLv3 (or later) / MPL license for new contributions to allow the license to be upgraded. There is no requirement to assign your copyright to anyone in order to get your code contributed - all contributions are welcome, and all we ask is that you license your code to us jointly under both licenses. Please see our guidelines for licensing and copyright attribution (which are there solely to make our life easier). You can also see a list of past and present contributors.

Brian Proffit reports on the issues with Oracle donating the OOo code to Apache:
http://www.itworld.com/software/1723...ficeorg-apache

So what are some of the objections?

There are technical considerations at issue. Curtis cited LibreOffice, the fork from the OpenOffice.org code now maintained by The Document Foundation, and its move towards more Python-based tools. OpenOffice.org, will remain focused on Java-based code, especially given the preferences of the ASF, Oracle, and the other very interested advocate of this proposal, IBM.

And there's the licensing. Under the proposal, the OpenOffice.org codebase will fall under the Apache Software License v2 (ASL). That non-copyleft license will create practical concerns for sharing with LibreOffice code. It also, in Curtis' opinion, could put future OpenOffice.org in a bit of a bind.

"Copyleft is compelling to small LibreOffice contributors. Do you really want to write [ASL] so that IBM can sell it?", Curtis asked.

That could be a likely scenario, as IBM continues to sell its ODF-using product, Lotus Symphony. Having OpenOffice.org under the cover of the ASL is a much better option for IBM, which historically prefers non-copyleft licenses.

The license change is a BIG issue. The GPL does not allow the release of GPL'd code under a license which restricts the four freedoms, so there are legal issues.

The article goes on to mention several other objects but I don't want to copy the whole article here. It is a MUST read.

I get the sense that LibraOffice will dominate and that IF Apache takes it at all, it still won't recapture the market and user momentum it once had. I believe that it will eventually die. The ball is now entirely in the LibraOffice court.

[oshunluvr]

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I'll swithc back to libre office when it works and looks better... :P

[GreyGeek]

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Probably won't be a matter of IF, just when.

I can't see Apache taking on OpenOffice and stretching their dev crew that thin, since most of the OOo dev crew have already jumped ship to LibraOffice. I like the fact that LibraOO is going to switch to Python instead of remaining with Java. That takes any threats from Oracle out of the loop.

[oshunluvr]

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I agree with that as well. Dumping java will be a good move. Hopefully, it won't be long.

[Tanner1294]

Re: OpenOffice INSTEAD of Libreoffice.

I guess I'll just stick with the MS Office Web App and use Libreoffice if I need more features. Really the main reason I don't like Libreoffice is because it's wicked ugly compared to all of KDE.

[GreyGeek]

Re: OpenOffice INSTEAD of Libreoffice.

8)

We each have our reasons and Linux gives us choices to make. What's life without beauty!

[Tanner1294]

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8)

We each have our reasons and Linux gives us choices to make. What's life without beauty!

Exactly! Beauty is the reason I don't use GNOME

[GreyGeek]

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.....
Exactly! Beauty is the reason I don't use GNOME

And is one of the many reasons I use Kubuntu & KDE! 8)

[woodsmoke]

Re: OpenOffice INSTEAD of Libreoffice.

I dunno about the apperance thing. They basically look the same to me except for the splash page. However Koffice has a truely different interface
woodsmoke

[Tanner1294]

Re: OpenOffice INSTEAD of Libreoffice.

I dunno about the apperance thing. They basically look the same to me except for the splash page. However Koffice has a truely different interface
woodsmoke

What I mean by appearance is that both Libreoffice and OpenOffice are ugly compared to the rest of KDE. They don't follow the oxygen theme but use an uglier mockup of it. Whereas, KOffice uses a real Oxygen GUI, one that follows the system theme and looks great. I would use KOffice but it still needs work, and on my computer it fails a LOT graphically (text disappears, the cursor doesn't show, if I delete text it looks like it's still there, highlights don't show, etc..)

[woodsmoke]

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Ok, i can see that about Oxygen, and yes the big iterface of Koffice does slow things.

woodsmoke

[Tanner1294]

Re: OpenOffice INSTEAD of Libreoffice.

Ok, i can see that about Oxygen, and yes the big iterface of Koffice does slow things.

woodsmoke

The interface does tend to get in my way more often than not. Sometimes, all the containers on the right hand side change sizes and won't let me resize them (even though I don't need the simple toolbox to take up the entire right side of the window)