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    How to downgrade xorg server

    Due to a new problem with maximizing the windows in Natty (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...er/+bug/772311)I need to downgrade xorg server form 1.10 to 1.9.5 (Thanks to the perfect upgrade!). I'm not sure how I should do it. Any tutorial or help is very appreciated.

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    Re: How to downgrade xorg server

    It appears we are having very similar problems on similar systems. I was also experiencing freezes with a Konsole window. That bug report describes perfectly some of my main problems.

    Anyway ... after reading your question, I went digging and have downgraded to 1.9 for the moment. It's only been up and working for around 30 minutes, so I can't report success, but I can report improvement.

    I used the script in this thread:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...675614&page=11

    Not all that crap is necessary, but it was easier just doing it for the time being.

    I also ran: sudo nvidia-xconfig afterward just to be safe.

    Restarted X. Things seem okay.

    WARNING: This breaks dependencies, but everything does actually work. The nvidia-current package is marked as requiring xorg-server 1.10, for example.

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      #3
      Re: How to downgrade xorg server


      Great. Thanks!

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        Re: How to downgrade xorg server

        Just to add a bit summarizing what I've gone through since ...

        In order to make apt/synaptic stop complaining about dependencies, I uninstalled nvidia-current and then force downgraded the xorg meta package to:

        Code:
        http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xorg_7.5+6ubuntu3_i386.deb
        Then, I downloaded the current NVidia driver from NVidia's website, stopped kdm, and installed the driver manually. I then had to blacklist nouveau.

        Code:
        sudo edit /modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
        Then add this line:

        Code:
        blacklist nouveau
        Save. Reboot.

        So far, the freeze-ups I was experiencing have stopped except for the one mentioned elsewhere involving kded4. Unfortunately this method will require re-installing the driver after any kernel upgrade. I wish I had followed my own advice and researched this before upgrading. I wouldn't have done so had I know about it.

        I've version locked everything in synaptic. However, apparently KPackagekit doesn't have a similar option? I'm not accustomed to relying on it for upgrades since I do all that with apt-get myself when I feel like it, and I will likely just disable it. But I find that odd and wonder if there is some way of forcing/locking a version in it.

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          #5
          Re: How to downgrade xorg server

          If you're blacklisting nouveau, you probably want to

          Code:
           sudo update-initramfs -u
          as well to really get rid of it from the boot procedure.

          But then you also probably knew that - I just mention it for posterity.
          --
          Intocabile

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            #6
            Re: How to downgrade xorg server

            I think it is best not to maximize windows for a bit and wait for an update.
            Just out of curiosity, bdhamp, was your upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 interrupted? Mine was, and I had to manually upgrade the rest of the packages by configuring dpkg and dist-upgrade ing again and again. Since we are both experiencing, similar problems, thought maybe...

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              Re: How to downgrade xorg server

              Originally posted by gavdari
              I think it is best not to maximize windows for a bit and wait for an update.
              Just out of curiosity, bdhamp, was your upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 interrupted? Mine was, and I had to manually upgrade the rest of the packages by configuring dpkg and dist-upgrade ing again and again. Since we are both experiencing, similar problems, thought maybe...
              Yes. I'd walked away for awhile while it was downloading (took over an hour), and when I came back it was in the process of installing packages. I sat here occasionally looking at the screen while watching a movie, and at some point the screen had frozen. I noticed because had system monitor running, and its graphs were stuck. I then discovered everything was stuck and no keyboard or mouse input was possible. I eventually did a hard reset and then with through the various dpkg commands and such until I got a semi-working system.

              I've seen a couple of your posts here and in another thread, and your description of problems almost mirrors mine.

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                Re: How to downgrade xorg server

                Originally posted by Spadge
                If you're blacklisting nouveau, you probably want to

                Code:
                 sudo update-initramfs -u
                as well to really get rid of it from the boot procedure.

                But then you also probably knew that - I just mention it for posterity.
                Yes. Good advice. The comments I made above was an extreme summary of everything I did.

                The order should actually probably be:

                blacklist nouveau
                update-intramfs - u
                Install NVidia driver

                I've found in that running update-intramfs on a system with a manually installed NVidia driver requires recompiling the driver afterward.

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                  #9
                  Re: How to downgrade xorg server

                  Originally posted by bdhamp
                  Originally posted by gavdari
                  I think it is best not to maximize windows for a bit and wait for an update.
                  Just out of curiosity, bdhamp, was your upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 interrupted? Mine was, and I had to manually upgrade the rest of the packages by configuring dpkg and dist-upgrade ing again and again. Since we are both experiencing, similar problems, thought maybe...
                  Yes. I'd walked away for awhile while it was downloading (took over an hour), and when I came back it was in the process of installing packages. I sat here occasionally looking at the screen while watching a movie, and at some point the screen had frozen. I noticed because had system monitor running, and its graphs were stuck. I then discovered everything was stuck and no keyboard or mouse input was possible. I eventually did a hard reset and then with through the various dpkg commands and such until I got a semi-working system.

                  I've seen a couple of your posts here and in another thread, and your description of problems almost mirrors mine.
                  I hate to mention this, but maybe the only way is to install a fresh kubuntu from scratch. What do you think?

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                    #10
                    Re: How to downgrade xorg server

                    Originally posted by gavdari

                    I hate to mention this, but maybe the only way is to install a fresh kubuntu from scratch. What do you think?
                    This is what I've always done before. Always. And I've never had a problem actually.

                    So, yeah. I only went the upgrade route this time on a lark and because I sometimes get tired of having to reinstall all the specialized software I use that doesn't come standard with any distro. But what I've been through with this is worse.

                    It should be noted, though, that the interaction between the nvidia proprietary driver and xserver 1.10 is broken. I don't understand the details well enough to explain in what way or specifically where the problem is, just that the "resizing window" problem has been noticed by a lot of people even back during the betas and with other distros (Arch Linux, for example). There are several bug reports marked critical. It just hasn't been fixed.

                    There are a couple of other issues with 11.04 related to xserver 1.10 that are making it unusable for me, so I'm probably going to install 10.10 from scratch again when I have the time if they are not fixed soon.

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                      Re: How to downgrade xorg server

                      Originally posted by gavdari
                      I hate to mention this, but maybe the only way is to install a fresh kubuntu from scratch. What do you think?
                      Originally posted by bdhamp
                      This is what I've always done before. Always. And I've never had a problem actually.
                      I installed 11.04 from scratch on a new disk, it does not matter. The resizing bug is still here. Interesting enough, after installation Hardware Drivers told me I have Nvidia proprietary driver installed (green led) but not activated.

                      I then have uninstalled Nvidia proprietary driver and reverted back to open source driver (the one which name I could not ever spell correctly). I then started Firefox Installer widget and the moment it showed a popup window to enter my password the system froze again.

                      This Natty release is a joke. I'd wait another month or so until these issues are resolved (hopefully).

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                        #12
                        Re: How to downgrade xorg server

                        Originally posted by bamyasi

                        I installed 11.04 from scratch on a new disk, it does not matter. The resizing bug is still here.
                        Yeah. The only way to stop that is to downgrade xserver, which as you can see above then requires all sorts of shenanigans to keep the system from whining about this or that.

                        This Natty release is a joke. I'd wait another month or so until these issues are resolved (hopefully).
                        I try to remain patient with things like this. I know they can't check everything, and even seemingly obvious bugs have a way of not showing up until 5 minutes after release.

                        But ... this is absurd. I've never had these kinds of problems, things that just freeze the system entirely. And I'm a veteran of SuSE which previously had cornered the market on bizarre show stopper bugs that show up the minute after release.

                        I finally bit the bullet and installed an older release. I actually installed the KDE version of Mint 10, which is usually more polished than the initial Kubuntu release it is based on. Everything works again.

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                          #13
                          Re: How to downgrade xorg server

                          I can confirm that reinstalling natty from the scratch doesn't solve the problem. Although before the system froze when resizing more windows, like chrome or pidgin, and now it is only for terminal (I hope).

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