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    #16
    Re: Separate /home partition

    Hey dibl,

    Thanks for the quick response. I'll pursue it now.

    Celeron CPU G1610@2.60GHz x 2
    GeForce 8400 GS/PCle/SSE2
    Kubuntu 14.04 - 64 bit Linux - KDE 4.13.0

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      #17
      Re: Separate /home partition

      It's tantalising . . .

      This time start-up produced: 'kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails' error so I went into console and following your instructions we get:

      sda1 as '/'
      sda3 as '/home'

      next:

      'stopped/waiting'

      next:

      '/home/rupa'

      next:

      'cannot stat '.kde': no such file or directory'

      So I did 'start' anyway and got the error as above so I think there are some files missing

      Thanks.

      Celeron CPU G1610@2.60GHz x 2
      GeForce 8400 GS/PCle/SSE2
      Kubuntu 14.04 - 64 bit Linux - KDE 4.13.0

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        #18
        Re: Separate /home partition

        Take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if it has any "EE" errors. If not, try a shutdown and reboot of the computer. When it comes up for booting, if you can press "e" on the menu line, and then delete the "quiet" option on the kernel boot line, and then Ctrl-X to continue booting, watch the screen for errors during boot, and maybe we'll learn something.

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          #19
          Re: Separate /home partition

          Hi dibl,

          Xorg.0.log displays only 'II' or '**' or '--' but I can only go back 13 screens so there maybe something lurking out of sight.

          Saw no other errors during boot and how can you 'page' the screen to check properly - I can't find that option in my manual?

          And . . . I was thinking that maybe if I copy over the entire /home/rupa from my external backup drive that that could solve the problem or maybe particular files I appreciate your time and don't want to use up any more of it unless you find it a challenging issue . . over to you.
          Celeron CPU G1610@2.60GHz x 2
          GeForce 8400 GS/PCle/SSE2
          Kubuntu 14.04 - 64 bit Linux - KDE 4.13.0

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            #20
            Re: Separate /home partition

            Originally posted by leadwt

            'cannot stat '.kde': no such file or directory'
            I have a feeling (but nothing more) that we have tricked KDE by moving the user's home directory, and that there is configuration information elsewhere in the system that is still looking on /dev/sda1. If this is the case, then there's no need to copy files from your backup, because that won't help.

            Can you Ctrl-Alt-F1 out of the desktop, log in and shut down the X server with
            Code:
            sudo service kdm stop
            , and then do

            Code:
            sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
            ?

            Then restart the desktop with
            Code:
            sudo service kdm start
            and let's see what happens.

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              #21
              Re: Separate /home partition

              Well what happened, apart from all the usual activity during update etc was that we got that error again:

              'Kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails.

              The error code is 3

              Check your installation'

              I'll check the log again and see if anything shows its face - watch this space . .

              EDIT

              These errors appeared on screen:

              EE Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0)
              EE Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0 )
              EE Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
              Celeron CPU G1610@2.60GHz x 2
              GeForce 8400 GS/PCle/SSE2
              Kubuntu 14.04 - 64 bit Linux - KDE 4.13.0

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                #22
                Re: Separate /home partition

                Ok - well I tried loading packages relating to the EE's noted in the previous but with the same error (i.e. config) so called it a day. I've upgraded to 'Natty' and once I get that working (currently having the nvidia driver issues that others have noted ) I will pull in my stuff from my back-up disk.

                Thanks for the assistance.
                Celeron CPU G1610@2.60GHz x 2
                GeForce 8400 GS/PCle/SSE2
                Kubuntu 14.04 - 64 bit Linux - KDE 4.13.0

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                  #23
                  Re: Separate /home partition

                  Originally posted by leadwt

                  how can you 'page' the screen to check properly - I can't find that option in my manual?
                  I see I never answered this question. There are probably at least 3 ways, but my way is this:

                  Code:
                  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | more
                  then use the spacebar to advance a screen at a time.

                  OK, your "failure to load module nouveau" kinda reveals that it's trying to use the nouveau driver, which became kubuntu's default for machines with an nvidia GPU on Ver. 10.04. So, you are left to either love it or rip it out and replace it with the nvidia proprietary driver. I wish this guide could be simpler, but ....

                  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3107406.0

                  Note the section about removing nouveau.

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                    #24
                    Re: Separate /home partition (Closed)

                    I'll chime in and say that "less is more"

                    Using less instead of more in dibl's comment has the advantage of scrolling/paging both directions - up and down.

                    Please Read Me

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                      #25
                      Re: Separate /home partition (Closed)

                      Originally posted by oshunluvr

                      Using less instead of more in dibl's comment has the advantage of scrolling/paging both directions - up and down.

                      Heh heh heh. "less" is for folks who can't remember what they just read 5 seconds before, and have to back up to it. Real men use "more" and pay attention to what the screen says!

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                        #26
                        Re: Separate /home partition (Closed)

                        Yo,

                        Thanks for the help guys - but I've ended up back on 10.04 as 'natty' was NUTS!

                        All for the same reason it appears - the dreaded video card driver issue.

                        Heh, at least I do have the separate /home partition and I thought that that was going to be the difficult part. However I did spend two days trying various solutions re 'nutty' and the driver challenge and failed to make the goalposts let alone touch down.

                        As a final, I think the guys behind the code should place more attention on this driver issue. A non-computer Noobie on Kubuntu (or any others?) would be totally stuffed. That's how you lose 'customers'.

                        Thanks again.
                        Celeron CPU G1610@2.60GHz x 2
                        GeForce 8400 GS/PCle/SSE2
                        Kubuntu 14.04 - 64 bit Linux - KDE 4.13.0

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                          #27
                          Re: Separate /home partition (Closed)

                          Bummer.

                          Well, I found the "mandatory" switch to the nouveau driver a little rough, too. It's coming along, but it is still a pale shadow of the proprietary driver, when it comes to 3D and compositing.

                          Does the 11.04 Live CD run nicely on your hardware?

                          I ran a search on my natty system and it does not find any such file as Kstartupconfig4. So I dunno about that error -- I wonder if it was a leftover issue from the prior version.

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                            #28
                            Re: Separate /home partition (Closed)

                            Originally posted by dibl
                            Heh heh heh. "less" is for folks who can't remember what they just read 5 seconds before,
                            Uh, yeah...


                            ...that would be me.

                            Please Read Me

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                              #29
                              Re: Separate /home partition

                              Originally posted by dibl
                              Code:
                              cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | more
                              Some would say that's useless use of cat (UUoC), you'll save some typing and a process with:
                              Code:
                              more /var/log/Xorg.0.log
                              Originally posted by oshunluvr
                              I'll chime in and say that "less is more"
                              less is more, but most is more than less :P

                              Needless to say, "most" is my pager of choice
                              (horizontal panning and window splitting among other things)

                              I'll let you back on-topic from pager wars now

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                                #30
                                Re: Separate /home partition (Closed)

                                Originally posted by leadwt
                                Heh, at least I do have the separate /home partition and I thought that that was going to be the difficult part.
                                Those who also think that the separate home partition is difficult to create can use during reinstall or distro upgrade with home partition on the system disk next steps:
                                - Immediately after start of fresh install choose that you want to divide disk manually
                                - Define mount point / on the old Linux disk partition
                                - Then you will be asked, if you want reformat Linux disk partition
                                - If you answer no, all files in home directory will stay intact and all old system files will be removed and replaced with a fresh install
                                Kubuntu 16.04 on two computers and Kubuntu 17.04 on DELL Latitude 13

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