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    [solved] Update Watch Out!

    Did a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade this morning; good thing I used the -d option. It is threatening to remove about 1/4 of my system, including most xorg packages (this IS maverick, not natty).

    Tried blocking the backport, beta, experimental, xswat and xorg-edgers ppas, did not help.

    Looks like a couple of mesa package updates might be responsible, though placing holds on them didn't help. Also noticed upstart is on the "not upgraded" list, that could also be a problem.

    Wondering if anyone else has noticed this?
    We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking

    #2
    Re: Update Watch Out!

    Do you think maybe you have a virus? I just checked and the only updats I have are for a program called subversion (non official). When's the last time you updated?
    Motherboard:ASUS P5Q SE PLUS<br />Videocard:EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB<br />Ram:G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB)<br />Processor:Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz

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      #3
      Re: Update Watch Out!

      I would doubt there is a virus; rkhunter finds nothing.
      Did an update/dist-upgrade yesterday, no problems.

      I did notice one strange thing:
      When I first ran the update/d-u this morning, I got an error message I haven't seen before.
      It said it couldn't calculate the upgrade because of a problem with php5, and some unsatisfied dependencies that couldn't be resolved. I did a manual reinstall on one of them (php5-fpm), and the u/d-u again. This time it complained about ia32-libs, which I also reinstalled.
      In both cases, it said the problem might be packages on hold. The only package on hold is mono-runtime, to keep it off the system. I did try removing the hold on it, but that didn't fix it.

      After reinstalling ia32-libs, it's making this noise about removing most of the xorg packages, and everything that depends on them (which is a big part of the system). I can't figure out which package might be causing that.
      We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking

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        #4
        Re: Update Watch Out!

        Some additional info:

        I tried an apt-get install --reinstall upstart, since it is apparently being held back for some reason.
        This is the error message I got:

        Code:
        greenman@Wolfenstein:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall upstart
        Reading package lists... Done
        Building dependency tree    
        Reading state information... Done
        Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
        requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
        distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
        or been moved out of Incoming.
        The following information may help to resolve the situation:
        
        The following packages have unmet dependencies:
         debconf : Depends: debconf-i18n but it is not going to be installed or
                  debconf-english but it is not going to be installed
              PreDepends: perl-base (>= 5.6.1-4) but it is not going to be installed
              Recommends: apt-utils (>= 0.5.1) but it is not going to be installed
         ghostscript : Depends: libgs8 (= 8.71.dfsg.2-0ubuntu7) but it is not going to be installed
                Depends: debianutils (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed
         ghostscript-x : Depends: libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0) but it is not going to be installed
                 Depends: libpaper1 but it is not going to be installed
                 Depends: libsm6 but it is not going to be installed
                 Depends: libxext6 but it is not going to be installed
                 Depends: libxt6 but it is not going to be installed
         libschroedinger-1.0-0 : Depends: liborc-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.6) but it is not going to be installed
         libsdl1.2debian : Depends: libsdl1.2debian-alsa (= 1.2.14-6ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed or
                      libsdl1.2debian-all (= 1.2.14-6ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed or
                      libsdl1.2debian-esd (= 1.2.14-6ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed or
                      libsdl1.2debian-oss (= 1.2.14-6ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed or
                      libsdl1.2debian-nas (= 1.2.14-6ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed or
                      libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio (= 1.2.14-6ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
         libtheora0 : Depends: libogg0 (>= 1.1.0) but it is not going to be installed
         libvorbis0a : Depends: libogg0 (>= 1.1.0) but it is not going to be installed
         libvorbisenc2 : Depends: libogg0 (>= 1.0rc3) but it is not going to be installed
         libx11-6 : Depends: libxcb1 (>= 1.2) but it is not going to be installed
         sun-java6-bin : Depends: sun-java6-jre (>= 6.21dlj-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed
                 Depends: unixodbc but it is not going to be installed
                 Recommends: libasound2
                 Recommends: libxext6 but it is not going to be installed
                 Recommends: libxi6 but it is not going to be installed
                 Recommends: libxt6 but it is not going to be installed
                 Recommends: libxtst6 but it is not going to be installed
                 Recommends: libnss-mdns but it is not going to be installed
         upstart : Depends: libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.2.16) but it is not going to be installed
              Depends: libnih-dbus1 (>= 1.0.0) but it is not going to be installed
              Depends: libnih1 (>= 1.0.0) but it is not going to be installed
              Depends: libudev0 (>= 151) but it is not going to be installed
              Depends: sysvinit-utils but it is not going to be installed
              Depends: sysv-rc but it is not going to be installed
              Depends: initscripts but it is not going to be installed
              Depends: mountall but it is not going to be installed
              Depends: ifupdown (>= 0.6.8ubuntu29)
              Breaks: libc6 (< 2.12.1-0ubuntu10.2) but 2.12.1-0ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
        E: Broken packages
        I'm really perplexed about what is going on here. If this is just a stuff-isn't-in-the-repository-yet problem, then others should be getting it, too. But no one else seems to be reporting the problem here, or on the ubuntu forums.

        We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking

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          #5
          Re: Update Watch Out!

          I'm only running 11.04 now, but it sounds as if you might have a "non-standard" repo, maybe, which is pulling in packages that are either earlier or later versions that 10.10. You might try commenting out all the repos that are not canonical's repos for 10.10, and update and then see what you get.

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            #6
            Re: Update Watch Out!

            That's possible - I have a lot of non-standard ppas, but I think only xswat and edgers install x packages. Nonetheless, that's a good place to start, and I will try that.

            Be forewarned, though -- I just did a u/d-u on natty, and it's threatening the same problem. I was expecting that, given the transition to xorg-1.10. But now is not the time to update there, either.

            We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking

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              #7
              Re: Update Watch Out!

              Oh well --

              I tried removing ALL of the ppas, everything in sources.list.d, along with commenting out maverick-proposed and maverick-backports in sources.list. All that's there is the basic stuff. Doing an update, and then a -d dist-upgrade, still wants to remove just about all of xorg, and nearly 2000 other packages (most of the system).

              Now I'm really stumped. I wonder if apt itself is corrupted, and if so, how and what to do about it.


              We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking

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                #8
                Re: Update Watch Out!

                OK further info:

                Removing this line from sources.list solves the problem of removing the entire system:

                deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates main restricted

                but that's a standard canonical repository!! Well maybe wait a few days. But why is no one else seeing this?



                We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking

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                  #9
                  Re: Update Watch Out!

                  nope, I just updated 2 Maverick boxes today and got just a few things as far as I remember - no problems at all.

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                    #10
                    Re: Update Watch Out!

                    Then something here is seriously messed up. Here is what I get:
                    -------------------------------------

                    greenman@Wolfenstein:~$ sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade
                    Reading package lists... Done
                    Building dependency tree
                    Reading state information... Done
                    Calculating upgrade... Done
                    The following packages will be REMOVED:
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                    apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-suexec apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common apcalc apparmor-utils
                    appmenu-gtk apport-gtk apport-kde apport-qt apt-file apt-rdepends apt-show-versions apt-transport-https
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                    audacious-plugins audacity audex automoc autopsy avahi-daemon avahi-utils avidemux-plugins-common
                    avidemux-plugins-gtk avidemux-plugins-qt awesome axe barcode basket bb bc bind9-host biniax2 black-box
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                    4 upgraded, 19 newly installed, 2004 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
                    Need to get 36.3MB of archives.
                    After this operation, 5,622MB disk space will be freed.
                    Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
                    Abort.

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                    This is not good.

                    We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking

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                      #11
                      Re: Update Watch Out!

                      did you add back the standard repo you removed?

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                        #12
                        Re: Update Watch Out!

                        Yes, I did. Without it in there, there is none of this mess.

                        I am wondering if this is somehow connected with aptitude. I NEVER use it, because it always threatens to remove my entire system, and I have no idea why. Apt-get has always worked properly. Yesterday, I ran aptitude to check a feature I read about somewhere, and yep, it wanted to flush the entire system, upgrade OOo (which has been removed), and a bunch of other really stupid things that say to me aptitude is broken somewhere. I am wondering if somehow the problems with aptitude got written to apt-get's configuration somewhere, and now apt-get is broken.

                        I think I am looking at a restore from backup here, unless there is some way to flush out whatever aptitude's problem is.



                        We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking

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                          #13
                          Re: Update Watch Out!

                          I'd say, show us your sources.list as well as any other non-standard lists you have. We might be able to see something you are missing.
                          Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                          Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                          "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                            #14
                            Re: Update Watch Out!

                            Here is sources.list:

                            -----------------------
                            greenman@Wolfenstein:/etc/apt$ cat sources.list
                            # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.1)]/ intrepid main restricted
                            # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
                            # newer versions of the distribution.

                            deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted
                            # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted

                            ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
                            ## distribution.
                            deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates main restricted
                            # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates main restricted



                            ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
                            ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
                            ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
                            deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick universe
                            # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick universe
                            deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates universe
                            # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates universe

                            ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
                            ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
                            ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
                            ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
                            ## security team.
                            deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick multiverse
                            # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick multiverse
                            deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates multiverse
                            # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates multiverse

                            ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
                            ## repository.
                            ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
                            ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
                            ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
                            ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
                            ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
                            deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-backports main restricted universe multiverse
                            # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-backports main restricted universe multiverse

                            ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
                            ## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
                            ## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu
                            ## users.
                            # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ maverick partner
                            # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ intrepid partner

                            ## Ubuntu extras repository
                            deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main

                            ## Update repositories
                            deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security main restricted
                            # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security main restricted
                            deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security universe
                            # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security universe
                            deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security multiverse
                            # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security multiverse
                            deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
                            # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-proposed restricted main multiverse universe

                            -----------------------

                            I moved everything out of sources.list.d, did the update and -d dist-upgrade, and here is the error message I got:

                            Code:
                            greenman@Wolfenstein:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade
                            Reading package lists... Done
                            Building dependency tree    
                            Reading state information... Done
                            Calculating upgrade... Failed
                            The following packages have unmet dependencies:
                             php5 : Depends: libapache2-mod-php5 (>= 5.3.3-1ubuntu9.3) but it is not going to be installed or
                                     libapache2-mod-php5filter (>= 5.3.3-1ubuntu9.3) but it is not going to be installed or
                                     php5-cgi (>= 5.3.3-1ubuntu9.3) but it is not going to be installed or
                                     php5-fpm (>= 5.3.3-1ubuntu9.3) but it is not going to be installed
                             php5-mcrypt : Depends: phpapi-20090626
                             php5-sqlite : Depends: phpapi-20090626
                             php5-xsl : Depends: phpapi-20090626
                            N: Ignoring file 'noinstall' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has no filename extension
                            E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
                            This is how it all started this morning. I reinstalled the php5 packages, then it complained about ia32-libs, which I reinstalled, then I got the mess.

                            There are a whole bunch of sources.list.d list files, too many to list all their contents. But as I said, I have moved all of them out for purposes of this test.

                            Edit: PS this is on the system I just restored from backup, so it isn't aptitude's fault. Or anything else that happened in the last 4 days.

                            We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet. -- Stephen Hawking

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                              #15
                              Re: Update Watch Out!

                              Why do you have commented:

                              # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ maverick partner

                              in sources.list?
                              Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                              Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                              "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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