Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

[craig10x]

Hi: I was wondering if there are any newsreaders on linux that will download a video and assemble the parts...and that will also do NZB Files?
I have Pan Newsreader installed which i love for both text/mp3s and photos and it also does NZB files...but i wasn't sure if Pan will assemble all the "parts" of a video automatically, they way it does so for other files...does anyone know? (I never tried that)....

And if it does not...any newsreaders we have at our access to do that (and also works with nzb files)?
I'm not talking about windows newsreaders that you can use through wine...i would prefer to stay linux if possible...

[claydoh]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

if it puts files together for other file types it definitely should for video. only way to really know is to try

[craig10x]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

Thanks..i did try...unlike mp3s, while it will download the video from an nzb file with no problem, it doesn't assemble the "parts"...so no go for that purpose...

Someone mentioned Klibido on another forum...and says it does nzbs but i can't figure out whether it will assemble video files from looking at their site...

There is an interesting program called sabnzbd i came across which does nzbs of all types and nothing else...and from it's description, it appears to do everything automatically..i wonder if anyone has any experience with this program/and/or klibido...

Thanks

[Snowhog]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

Install sabnzbdplus and check it out. According to my system, it's available for installation via KPackageKit or via the console using apt-get.

Description: web-based binary newsgrabber with nzb support
 SABnzbd+ is a web-based binary newsgrabber written in Python, with support for
 the popular nzb file format. It greatly simplifies the process of downloading
 from usenet, thanks to a friendly web-based, fully customizable user interface
 and advanced built-in post-processing options including the ability to
 automatically verify, repair, extract and clean up downloaded posts.
 .
 Multiple servers are supported, as well as secure (ssl) connections, ipv6,
 scheduling, pausing and resuming downloads, queue manipulation, rss feeds,
 newzbin and nzbmatrix integration, automatic sorting, a download history,
 email notifications, and custom post-processing scripts. An extensive API
 allows third party applications to interact with the program.
 .
 The program is a fork of the original SABnzbd code, which is no longer actively
 developed.
Homepage: [url]http://sabnzbd.org[/url]

If you don't like it, or it doesn't do what you want, then just uninstall it.

[claydoh]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

no clue, I would assume an nzb is an nzb is an nzb, and that the filetype is immaterial - unless perhaps the reader is simply unable to handle the large filesize?

I finished my usenet days before nzb's became pervasive - plus it became quicker and easier to get, um, things, er, um from, ahh other sources

[craig10x]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

Thanks Snowhog....i believe i will try it...as you said..can always uninstall if it doesn't meet my needs
It certainly looks VERY INTERESTING though

Oh i got yah, Claydoh...well, actually what an NZB is just an easy way to search and get a file (whether mp3, video, photo or whatever) to your newsreader without having to download a zillion different newsgroups and searching all over them for something you seek...

For example, if you wanted to find a video of say an old "Get Smart" tv episode...you could go to the many free nzb search engines and type in what you seek, and it will search tons of groups for the file you desire..

If it finds it, you download it to your computer's download folder in a few seconds...
But then your actual Newsreader program needs to do the actual file download and send it to the folder that you normally have the reader put your downloaded files...

But, if for example, your newsreader doesn't have the capability of putting together all the small pieces of video files you are downloading (like Pan) you end up with a mess of small video files instead of 1 COMPLETE FILE...

NZB just saves you a big hassle involved in FINDING SOMETHING...but then it is up to your actual Reader whether it can properly HANDLE the file....Pan can do it with mp3 and photo files...it doesn't combine the video files and that is what i am in need of....

[blobfish]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

But, if for example, your newsreader doesn't have the capability of putting together all the small pieces of video files you are downloading (like Pan) you end up with a mess of small video files instead of 1 COMPLETE FILE...

I am guessing you have a list of files such as video.001, video.002, video.003 etc.... If this is the case, the command cat in the terminal is your friend.

terminal in the directory where only the video files are located.

cat *>joinedvideoname

having the files split like this is actually a good way to go, because it avoids the use of the proprietary rar format. The only newsreader I know that will join these automatically is QBinNews. There is no debian package, so it is not an easy install. (disclaimer) It's mine.

http://road-kill.freshmeat.net/projects/qbinnews
http://gitorious.org/qbinnews/qbinnews

I haven't ran pan in years, but last time I did it couldn't handle the large groups and would crash. I ran klibido for years and it is a good program. The only real problem was the database corruption. On windows I have ran: outlook express, agent, newsbin pro, xnews, newsleecher.

If you are looking for a simple nzb downloader,

sudo apt-get install nzb

search the forum as someone here recently got there favorite windows newsreader working under wine.

no clue, I would assume an nzb is an nzb is an nzb, and that the filetype is immaterial - unless perhaps the reader is simply unable to handle the large filesize?

I finished my usenet days before nzb's became pervasive - plus it became quicker and easier to get, um, things, er, um from, ahh other sources

nzbs are simple xml files and should be basically the same. They are usually automatically generated, so like all things computer there can be bugs. I have tried many forms of binary downloading. gnutella network, torrents and I just never left newsgroups. I use astraweb and for 11 USD a month I get much better speed than torrents and they are getting up to 3 years of binary retention. I think torrents have been spotted by the isps as a network drain and are getting the attention of the media corps. I am paying for a service that I connect to via ssl, so I feel a bit safer. Just my 2 cents.

[craig10x]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

Thanks for the very informative post about this...I think that i am going to try sabnzbdplus as i did a lot of reading on their website and it appears to be a very popular program and is supposed to be pretty easy to set up and use...and it sounds from what i am reading that it takes the nzb file you downloaded and does the whole works (just like newsleecher does)...so if that is the case, then it will probably be the ideal solution for me...

Edit: I found a program that is even easier to use then sabnzbsplus...it's called: lottanzb...also available in kpackagekit of course...It is VERY EASY to set up and works great! Assembles all the parts, fixes any problems and gives you a complete video (or mp3) ready to play on your computer or burn to a dvd/cd...Combined with free NZB search engines i will now have everything i need...

[blobfish]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

Please post back and let us know what you settled on and why. Good luck.

[ScottyK]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

search the forum as someone here recently got there favorite windows newsreader working under wine.

That would have been me. I use NewsRover and run it under wine. During the install, had an error message pop up saying the install was corrupt, but worked without a problem after that. Also supports SSL downloads.

[craig10x]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

Please post back and let us know what you settled on and why. Good luck.

Thanks...i am actually playing with two different programs right now and have to see which works out the best...i will report back after i "sort it out" and decide on which one...

[craig10x]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

I went with LottaNzb initially and it works very well...but i also added Sabnzbdplus which i like better...although interestingly, although the program is on your computer, the GUI to work it is web based on a special url.....It works very well though and is a very actively advancing program...

In fact LottaNzb uses a back end that is no longer developed (last done 3 years ago) so for their next edition they are going to use the Sabnzbdplus for the new back end...

Both programs work pretty smooth, though i like the Sab program better because unlike Lotta, if i am web surfing and streaming web radio, Sab doesn't drop the download and Lotta often does (requiring to resume in manually)...So Sab seems smoother and a more modern up-to-date program...even with the unusual web based gui to control it...

Does a great job and very happy with it....downloading my movies, tvs shows and mp3s really easy now (In combination with a free nzb search engine...who needs Newsleecher

[blobfish]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

I went with LottaNzb initially and it works very well...but i also added Sabnzbdplus which i like better...although interestingly, although the program is on your computer, the GUI to work it is web based on a special url.....It works very well though and is a very actively advancing program...

Hard pill to swallow! I haven't done a lot of web development, but the little I have done I thought it was a convoluted. Does this web interface give you anything extra. I have a QWebkit browser embedded in my app that will detect nzb downloads and automatically queue. Basically the user doesn't have to deal with the file management of the nzb files. The built in browser has links to: binsearch, nzbcc and nzbindex. I am wondering if sabnzbdplus, with it's web interface, is hooked into the nzb search sites?

...who needs Newsleecher

I can't believe people pay newsleechers maintenance fees.

where is everyone with usenet servers? I ran giganews for years and couldn't complain other than the price. I switched to astraweb about 8 months ago and I am glad I did. Servers are not as good, but 14 USD cheaper I can handle the occasional server dropping my connection mid stream. I hooked up a friend with "usenet server" (I wish they would pick a different name) and that was a 1usd cheaper than astraweb, but their servers drop a lot more than astraweb. I can't remember giganews every dropping my connection. The prices I have experienced:
giganews 25 per month.
astraweb 11 per month.
usenet server 10 per month.

[craig10x]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

I use Astraweb as well for my usenet server...they are terrific
Well with SAB there is one or two paid services that do work in synch with them...but i use free nzb search services, download the nzbs i want first and later have the nzb program do the downloads....

As a Quick follow up to what i had said...actually, i think the problems with LottaNzb sometimes conking out on the downloads when i was doing a lot of web surfing, streaming radio, etc...was due to having too many usenet server connections on the setting for the program...once i lowered that quite a bit, no more problems...so i would say both programs work about equally well...If you prefer both application and GUI in one then Lotta is probably the better way to go....both are excellent for their purpose....

I may actually end up going back to using Lotta again instead as i do like having the GUI as part of the application, and now that i lowered the number of connections to Astraweb, there is no download "drop-outs" so all is good with Lotta...

Lotta is a very simple program to use (not that Sab is much harder)...and interestingly enough, it will be switching to using SAB for it's back end as of it's next edition, so that you get SAB with Lotta as it's Gui...nice combo there

PS: It seems like in both programs the # of connections is usually set too high and that is what causes the problems, especially if you don't have an extremely high speed connection (i have verizon base dsl package)....Once i changed it, all was good with both programs...

[blobfish]

Re: Linux Newsreader that downloads and assembles Videos?

Lotta is a very simple program to use (not that Sab is much harder)..

if simplicity is what you are looking for, I thought nzb (wish they would change the name) was pretty simple and clean. It is in the repos.
Here are some pictures.
http://sourceforge.net/project/scree...roup_id=113793

PS: It seems like in both programs the # of connections is usually set too high and that is what causes the problems, especially if you don't have an extremely high speed connection (i have verizon base dsl package)....Once i changed it, all was good with both programs...

I run with only 4 connections because, I don't have very fast speed and more connections doesn't help. I still lose an occasional thread and sometimes I will lose several. This is random and never happened with giganews, so I think astraweb (like many bargain services) have some problems. I just need to code around it.

I wonder if your isp is messing with you. Do you run SSL?