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    (SOLVED) Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

    Ref: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...26198#msg26198

    I have the same problem too. Working with kubuntu 10.10 installed from the live cd option I really prefer KDE.

    My laptop is a MSI 340x, all working with intel components, see for specs:
    http://www.msimobile.com/level3_prod...x?cid=4&id=168

    For example, I have downloaded Tengen the go game. At times it freezes completely or get so slow. It happens also that gnucat (or the mozilla equivalent) freezes completely.

    The same program on ubuntu work very fine. The response of the computer is fast on my son's Dell laptop.

    I have found a few other threads relating slowness or sluggishness of kubuntu:
    http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3114079.0
    http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3112854.0
    http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3103501.0


    but with no reaction at all. Any help appreciated.

    Edited to add other thread on slowness, etc.

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    #2
    Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

    Well, Tengen isn't a game that is in any of the official *buntu repositories, so that means that you installed it from some website or download. You can't expect an unsupported game (or any application) to run correctly, if at all. Gnucat - what is that? A Google search on 'linux gnucat' finds nothing.
    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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      #3
      Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

      The same ubuntu 10.10 installation on a hp pavilion laptop 1540ca, see specs:
      http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...roduct=1838153

      does not present a slow time response or freezing of the web browser, that is firefox. Sorry for using gnucat, I meant icecat, but this is on the zenwalk distribution. I will try to be a lot more concise on the next intervention. Tengen the go game works very fine, fast, etc.

      Could it be some kind of memory wrong setting? The MSI is a lot more recent and performing computer.


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        #4
        Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

        In the following thread on the topic of slowness or freezing of kubuntu:
        http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3112854.0

        Cited procedure by Owl Juul:
        ... looking at your process table. In Kubunty Ctrl-Esc will bring it up. In a console type "top" (q to quit).

        Here is the output, in the hope that someone can interpret that one, firefox opened, tengen closed. Because the computer was slow and firefox frooze, I xkilled firefox and closed tengen. Reopening firefox and then tengen, everything runs OK. Bizarre!:
        PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
        1950 fl 20 0 75000 18m 10m S 86.7 0.9 19:28.54 gtk-gnash
        2218 fl 20 0 615m 177m 28m S 3.6 9.0 2:32.04 firefox-bin
        2399 fl 20 0 76904 21m 11m S 3.3 1.1 0:25.36 gtk-gnash
        943 root 20 0 98.3m 42m 15m S 2.0 2.2 2:57.99 Xorg
        1668 fl 20 0 125m 21m 16m S 0.7 1.1 0:03.18 konsole
        2312 fl 20 0 74612 20m 11m S 0.7 1.0 0:06.67 gtk-gnash
        2318 fl 20 0 75932 20m 11m S 0.7 1.0 0:06.62 gtk-gnash
        2321 fl 20 0 74400 20m 11m S 0.7 1.0 0:06.56 gtk-gnash
        2406 fl 20 0 75276 19m 10m S 0.7 1.0 0:03.87 gtk-gnash
        2413 fl 20 0 75032 18m 10m S 0.7 1.0 0:03.74 gtk-gnash
        1665 fl 20 0 106m 26m 18m S 0.3 1.4 0:01.14 dolphin
        2305 fl 20 0 75776 20m 11m S 0.3 1.0 0:06.78 gtk-gnash
        2317 fl 20 0 75420 20m 11m S 0.3 1.0 0:06.63 gtk-gnash
        2320 fl 20 0 76364 20m 11m S 0.3 1.0 0:06.65 gtk-gnash
        2322 fl 20 0 75612 20m 11m S 0.3 1.0 0:06.69 gtk-gnash
        1 root 20 0 2884 1720 1224 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.44 init
        2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
        3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.11 ksoftirqd/0
        4 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0
        5 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0
        6 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 events/0
        7 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuset
        8 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
        9
        ...

        I will report the same process output, but during an occurence of freezing.

        If the above values are limit or of some help, just let me know. Any help appreciated. Thanks.



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          #5
          Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

          Originally posted by francois.e

          PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
          1950 fl 20 0 75000 18m 10m S 86.7 0.9 19:28.54 gtk-gnash
          2218 fl 20 0 615m 177m 28m S 3.6 9.0 2:32.04 firefox-bin
          2399 fl 20 0 76904 21m 11m S 3.3 1.1 0:25.36 gtk-gnash
          There's the problem -- 93+% of your CPU resources are being sucked up right there.

          What is gnash doing -- are you watching flash videos? Or is that part of how your game works?
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            #6
            Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

            Thanks dibl for your constructive comment.

            I have smplayer and kino, but both do not show gnash in their dependencies. It must be something else.

            What would be the apt- command to remove the faulty package?
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              #7
              Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

              The complaint: Re: 'gtk-gnash' bring system to a standstill #6
              followed by the solution:
              Re: 'gtk-gnash' bring system to a standstill #7
              Windows no longer obstructs my view.
              Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
              "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                #8
                Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

                Thanks for the thread Snowhog.

                Following the instructions of the first post I get a funny messages:

                fl@MSIX340:~$ sudo apt-get remove --purge gnash gnash-common mozilla-plugin-gnash
                [sudo] password for fl:
                Reading package lists... Done
                Building dependency tree
                Reading state information... Done
                Package mozilla-plugin-gnash is not installed, so not removed
                The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
                libwildmidi0 libzbar0 libflite1 libsoundtouch1c2 libopenspc0 libfftw3-3 libboost-thread1.42.0
                libboost-date-time1.42.0 gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libexempi3 libcroco3 libgme0 freepats
                gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad libcdaudio1 libmimic0 gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 librsvg2-2
                libcelt0-0 libvisual-0.4-0 librtmp0 gstreamer0.10-plugins-base libgtkglext1 libofa0 libmms0
                libiptcdata0 libvisual-0.4-plugins
                Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
                The following packages will be REMOVED:
                browser-plugin-gnash* gnash* gnash-common* swfdec-mozilla*
                0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 33 not upgraded.
                After this operation, 10.7MB disk space will be freed.
                Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
                (Reading database ... 104088 files and directories currently installed.)
                Removing swfdec-mozilla ...
                Removing browser-plugin-gnash ...
                update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/iceape/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so (iceape-flashplugin) in auto mode.
                update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so (iceweasel-flashplugin) in auto mode.
                update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so (mozilla-flashplugin) in auto mode.
                update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so (firefox-flashplugin) in auto mode.
                update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/xulrunner/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so (xulrunner-flashplugin) in auto mode.
                update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/midbrowser/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so (midbrowser-flashplugin) in auto mode.
                update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so (xulrunner-addons-flashplugin) in auto mode.
                Purging configuration files for browser-plugin-gnash ...
                Removing gnash ...
                Purging configuration files for gnash ...
                Removing gnash-common ...
                Purging configuration files for gnash-common ...
                ...

                ...
                Processing triggers for install-info ...


                Then:
                fl@MSIX340:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove
                Reading package lists... Done
                Building dependency tree
                Reading state information... Done
                The following packages will be REMOVED:
                freepats gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
                gstreamer0.10-plugins-base libboost-date-time1.42.0 libboost-thread1.42.0 libcdaudio1
                libcelt0-0 libcroco3 libexempi3 libfftw3-3 libflite1 libgme0 libgtkglext1 libiptcdata0
                libmimic0 libmms0 libofa0 libopenspc0 librsvg2-2 librtmp0 libsoundtouch1c2 libvisual-0.4-0
                libvisual-0.4-plugins libwildmidi0 libzbar0
                0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 27 to remove and 33 not upgraded.
                After this operation, 70.7MB disk space will be freed.
                Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
                (Reading database ... 104034 files and directories currently installed.)
                Removing freepats ...
                Removing gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg ...
                Removing gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 ...
                Removing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad ...
                Removing gstreamer0.10-plugins-base ...
                Removing libboost-date-time1.42.0 ...
                Removing libboost-thread1.42.0 ...
                Removing libcdaudio1 ...
                ...
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                  #9
                  Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

                  To see if things are any better, I used the top command. The output is:

                  fl@MSIX340:~$ top
                  top - 23:06:53 up 3:37, 2 users, load average: 1.79, 1.64, 1.55
                  Tasks: 172 total, 2 running, 170 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
                  Cpu(s): 40.9%us, 17.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 40.9%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st
                  Mem: 2023964k total, 1645664k used, 378300k free, 73452k buffers
                  Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 921336k cached

                  PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
                  1018 root 20 0 143m 50m 19m S 20.8 2.6 16:14.57 Xorg
                  1689 fl 20 0 652m 183m 29m S 20.8 9.3 51:01.35 firefox-bin
                  1884 fl 20 0 79868 23m 11m S 12.9 1.2 12:38.92 gtk-gnash
                  1534 fl 20 0 266m 39m 23m S 5.9 2.0 5:51.23 kwin
                  2819 fl 20 0 125m 22m 16m S 2.6 1.1 0:06.54 konsole
                  1874 fl 20 0 75924 20m 11m S 1.0 1.0 1:49.74 gtk-gnash
                  1862 fl 20 0 75452 20m 11m S 0.7 1.0 1:47.72 gtk-gnash
                  2074 fl 20 0 74812 19m 11m S 0.7 1.0 1:32.47 gtk-gnash
                  3135 fl 20 0 2624 1148 840 R 0.7 0.1 0:01.57 top
                  46 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 0.3 0.0 0:14.82 kondemand/0
                  1392 root 20 0 3736 1060 900 S 0.3 0.1 0:05.84 hald-addon-inpu
                  1449 fl 20 0 123m 21m 15m S 0.3 1.1 0:03.15 kded4
                  1541 fl 20 0 307m 59m 32m S 0.3 3.0 0:31.43 plasma-desktop
                  1 root 20 0 2888 1724 1224 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.46 init
                  ...

                  It seems that gnash is still there.
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                    #10
                    Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

                    Originally posted by francois.e
                    Package mozilla-plugin-gnash is not installed, so not removed
                    The following packages will be REMOVED:
                    browser-plugin-gnash* gnash* gnash-common* swfdec-mozilla*
                    swfdec-mozilla
                    This package is a transitional package for upgrading to browser-plugin-gnash.
                    It can be safely removed when browser-plugin-gnash is installed.
                    I see nothing odd. Have you shutdown and rebooted yet?
                    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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                      #11
                      Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

                      I just did it after posting. Everything seems fine after reboot:
                      top - 23:16:02 up 3 min, 2 users, load average: 1.45, 0.98, 0.41
                      Tasks: 194 total, 1 running, 192 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie
                      Cpu(s): 38.2%us, 15.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 46.1%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st
                      Mem: 2023964k total, 1129492k used, 894472k free, 61980k buffers
                      Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 563912k cached

                      PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
                      1691 fl 20 0 311m 114m 27m S 24.1 5.8 0:48.64 firefox-bin
                      1070 root 20 0 105m 37m 13m S 12.9 1.9 0:15.49 Xorg
                      1925 fl 20 0 106m 35m 16m S 8.6 1.8 0:08.16 plugin-containe
                      1734 fl 20 0 124m 20m 15m S 2.3 1.0 0:00.98 konsole
                      1532 fl 20 0 158m 33m 23m S 0.7 1.7 0:01.26 kwin
                      1539 fl 20 0 303m 54m 30m S 0.7 2.8 0:05.94 plasma-desktop
                      1923 fl 20 0 2624 1164 840 R 0.7 0.1 0:00.60 top
                      1390 root 20 0 3736 1056 900 S 0.3 0.1 0:00.08 hald-addon-inpu
                      1405 root 20 0 3740 1060 896 S 0.3 0.1 0:00.01 hald-addon-stor
                      1552 fl 20 0 189m 22m 5144 S 0.3 1.1 0:00.22 mysqld-akonadi
                      1744 fl 20 0 242m 75m 60m S 0.3 3.8 0:01.69 soffice.bin
                      1 r

                      ...


                      Thanks a lot. Everything seems fine now.
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                        #12
                        Re: Tried basics but Kubuntu is still slow!

                        Originally posted by francois.e
                        Thanks a lot. Everything seems fine now.

                        Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                        Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                        "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes​
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