Installing gimp-2.7.2 -- gegl won't compile

[Yuri sss]

Re: Installing gimp-2.7.2 -- gegl won't compile

As Gimp 2.7 imo doesn't have any really noteworthy improvements over 2.6 and at the same time annoys the living daylights out of its users with that deranged xcf nonsense, I went back to 2.6 again.

I cannot disagree -- the switch to "mandatory" use of .xcf format is an annoyance. I see no reason why "Save As" cannot include the "export to some other format" function.

However, as a person with old .pdd and .psd images going back 15 years or more, I've become very pragmatic about this type of issue, having started out with Adobe scanning software for Windows, then Paintshop Pro for some years before I made the switch to Linux for such work. I use gimp for cleaning, cropping, and resizing photos and other images, mainly for archival and web presentation purposes. If you want your images to be usable in 10 or 20 or 30 years or more, it's best to save the original in a .tiff file anyway, so it doesn't get processed via compression, and isn't subject to changing vendor standards and such. Although it is unfortunately not an ISO or ANSI standard, and although Adobe holds the copyright, TIFF is as close as we have to a vendor-neutral standardized image format, that has a chance to be viable long into the future.

That's true, you should always use a format that is still usable in a few year's time. You don't need to massively waste disk space with .tif however, the lossless .png will do just as well. It has been around for a long time already, and it won't be going anywhere within the next 10-20 years at the very least, as it's massively used. Same goes for .jpg, if you don't mind using a lossy format. It likewise has been around for quite a while, is massively used and thus won't be going anywhere either. While there's the muchly improved .jp2, that has been around for about 10 years now and still didn't catch on, and it's dubious if it will in the future. The only currently popular format that I see receding is .gif, which is being eclipsed by .png. The .png format is better than .gif in all regards but one, it doesn't support animations. To patch over that shortcoming, .mng has been created - we'll see how that goes.

Saving as .xcf would be pretty retarded - no one with at least a shroud of sanity uses that crap, and I'm sure it will go belly-up pretty soon because no one wants to use it (if you consider it to be alive in the first place, that is... with next to no one using it, that can't be really said.)
If anything, the forced .xcf saving will only make people more disgruntled towards Gimp, and it might be dropped from default install by more distributions besides Ubuntu.

[doctordruidphd]

Re: Installing gimp-2.7.2 -- gegl won't compile

In view of the compiling problems, I guess I will stick with 2.6 on Maverick until 2.8 is released.
Usually, when following a dependency trail like that, something else winds up breaking.
Since it looks like aptosid's ia32 problems are nearing resolution (or at least solution), I'll probably start using it more often.

[Yuri sss]

Re: Installing gimp-2.7.2 -- gegl won't compile

In view of the compiling problems, I guess I will stick with 2.6 on Maverick until 2.8 is released.

I'll stick with 2.6 until they drop that retarded forced xcf saving again.

Since it looks like aptosid's ia32 problems are nearing resolution (or at least solution), I'll probably start using it more often.

Absolutely no chance of me wasting any more time on craptosid.