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    No CUPS, no printers.

    Clean install of Kubuntu i386 on a 630i XFX mobo, 4GB RAM, Intel E7400 CPU. The first thing I noticed is... I have no printers. Kubuntu can't see them. But nothing has changed as far as hardware and peripherals are concerned since my clean 9.04 install. But now I have no printers. I've been happily using different Linux distros since February 2006. I've come across a number of problems before, mostly caused by my ignorance. But this is plain silly. The machine, printers, cables, everything is identical to my previous two setups with 9.04 and 9.10. I've used Sidux, OpenSUSE, PCLinuxOS, Mepis, Vector, Puppy and Fedora. Printers are always recognized practically before you turn the power on.

    I can imagine the questions that will come up now, so I'll attempt to prevent the worse of 'em:

    Yes, they are plugged in
    They are a Brother HL-2070 and an Epson NX400
    Yes, they have been automatically recognized before by every Linux distro I installed in this machine
    No, I haven't done anything funky besides "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" plus adding the kubuntu restricted extras, Nvidia drivers, Firefox and Kompozer.
    Yes, the printers are recognized by my also spanking new install of windoze XP pro SP3.

    Someone please tell me that I am missing the obvious, that I did or didn't something essential. Someone tell me please that the brand new version of Kubuntu doesn't come unready to see printers.

    Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;

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    Re: No CUPS, no printers.

    USB connected printers? I'm guessing 'yes.' If that is so, see my Re: Why can't I access my USB printer? (Reply #22). You should read the entire thread from the beginning.
    Windows no longer obstructs my view.
    Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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      #3
      Re: No CUPS, no printers.

      Thanks for the reply Snowhog,
      I will invest the time to go through the Launchpad string and try to figure it out. But what I've seen so far seems to confirm my initial impression: 10.04 comes out of the box unable to see USB printers. And to compound it, there is no command or update that corrects that. The solution proposed on launchpad is way too arcane for the average desktop user (i.e: Me) and reading the report "carefully" does not help unless you have a rather respectable previous knowledge of the inner workings of *nix systems: I'll explain: I have to stop and research what things like "newline character in its device ID" or "patch the source tree" mean in order to keep reading through the answers. I would not direct anyone to a launchpad bug report discussion unless I knew for a fact they were knowledgeable enough OR if my purpose was to intimidate them.
      Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;

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        #4
        Re: No CUPS, no printers.

        Just add to the launchpad bug. The guy who helped us will almost assuredly provide you with the information needed to get your printer up and working again.

        It isn't that "10.04 comes out of the box unable to see USB printers." Rather, if you, like me, have an older USB printer, or at least one that does not identify itself in a way that 10.04 and CUPS recognizes, then a work-around is required. I believe that the more people who add to this bug report, the needed pressure will be applied for the developers to fix this natively.
        Windows no longer obstructs my view.
        Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
        "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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          #5
          Re: No CUPS, no printers.

          Originally posted by Snowhog
          the needed pressure will be applied for the developers to fix this natively.
          Because the developers are not under enough pressure?
          apachelogger, Kubuntu Core Developer and Master of the Minions.

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            #6
            Figured out a simple fix

            This is what I did:

            Step 1: In the console:
            sudo cupsd
            Step 2: Then in a browser
            The user ID and Password are the same you have for the system

            Step 3: On the Administration tab, click on add printer and follow the usual steps.

            I haven't checked if the fix sticks around after a reboot.
            Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought! In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the bootmaker. <br /> -Mikhail Bakunin-, &quot;God and the State&quot;

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              #7
              Re: No CUPS, no printers.

              Originally posted by apachelogger
              Originally posted by Snowhog
              the needed pressure will be applied for the developers to fix this natively.
              Because the developers are not under enough pressure?
              can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
              Using Linux since 1999<br />Current system openSUSE 11.3 <br />Toshiba A505-S6035<br />Intel core i7, Nvidia 300m GT<br />4 gigs of DDR3, SATA 500 gig 7200 rpm hard drive

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                #8
                Re: No CUPS, no printers.

                Originally posted by Bruce
                Originally posted by apachelogger
                Originally posted by Snowhog
                the needed pressure will be applied for the developers to fix this natively.
                Because the developers are not under enough pressure?
                can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
                Is that supposed to be amusing? Because I do not think it is.
                apachelogger, Kubuntu Core Developer and Master of the Minions.

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                  #9
                  Re: No CUPS, no printers.

                  Dunno if this is related - but on my clean install of 10.04 + backports plus 4.4.4 the cups service was not started for some reason. This resulted in me unable to add any printer of any description (LPR in my case), also http:/localhost:631 would fail.

                  A simple
                  Code:
                  sudo service cups start
                  resolved the issue.

                  I haven't rebooted yet to see if the service fails to start again.

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