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**The Liquidator** · Jul 27, 2010, 04:58 PM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

If updating via the command line (which is usually the quickest way) sudo apt-get update updates the list of available packages. To download and install them you need to type

Code:

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

It will then download and install all updates (and necessary dependencies.

**Fintan** · Jul 28, 2010, 12:35 AM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

Just an add on:
if you do: (copy / paste)

Code:

sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

then you will get the whole thing with one command and you can retrieve the
command at any time in the terminal with the arrow keys on your keyboard

**mhumm2** · Jul 28, 2010, 12:37 AM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

Interesting. When I opened Synaptic, it showed all the kde 4.4.2 applications could be upgraded. I directed Synaptic to mark all upgrades and then applied. I'm now running kde-4.4.5. Now to run the system through it's paces and see if anything crashes especially kwin.

**Fintan** · Jul 28, 2010, 12:40 AM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

Great

There a few little issues this being an RC but the final should be out in about a week
and akonadi should be behaving by KDE4.5.1

Just for completeness, superkaramba on Kubuntu doesn't always work as it should.

For more:
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3091658.0

**mhumm2** · Jul 28, 2010, 12:42 AM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

Sorry guys. Didn't mean to ignore your post. I posted my last just as you posted yours. Thank you. I know about apt-get dist upgrade, but I was under the impression that that was for the whole OS not just the KDE front end. Every problem I have teaches me something else about this great OS. Thanks.

I hate to say it, but Firefox just crashed... twice in the past 10 minutes and I don't know why.

**Fintan** · Jul 28, 2010, 12:45 AM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

I hate to say it, but Firefox just crashed... twice in the past 10 minutes and I don't know why.

Are you using FF 3.6.8?

I haven't seen mine crash for a long while.

What were you doing, how many tabs did you have open?

**The Liquidator** · Jul 28, 2010, 03:21 AM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

If you are using 4.4.5 I think you are using the latest stable version, as opposed to the 4.5rc? Whichever you are using, firefox should not be crashing every 5 minutes.

The latest version of FF is, as Fintan says, 3.6.8. I wonder whether one of your FF extensions is throwing a wobbler.

How long have you been running firefox without issue? Have you recently installed an extension? One other possibility is an issue with your profile, in which case you can do this (no prior knowledge assumed):

Start firefox, then select bookmarks/organise bookmarks/import and backup. My preference is to export to html. Export them. Close firefox.

Then in your file manager open the home directory selecting view/show hidden files. Go to the folder containing firefox (it may be .mozilla or .mozilla firefox or .firefox). Navigate into the folder until you see your profile folder which will be a long alphanumeric sequence followed by default. rename the folder (don't delete it yet) - the usual way is generally by following the file name with .old.

Restart firefox which will now be a virgin copy. Firstly import your bookmarks (bookmarks/organise bookmarks/import and backup and import the HTML file you earlier exported). Play around with firefox for a while. If there are no crashes you can then start installing extensions (best to download them again). Once you are happy with everything you can then remove the old profile.
HTH

**Fintan** · Jul 28, 2010, 05:47 AM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

Have you recently installed an extension? One other possibility is an issue with your profile,
in which case you can do this (no prior knowledge assumed):

Yeah, that would have been my next suggestion.

Or if you have xmarks installed you can back up you BM's and PW's with that.

Liquidator is just too quick

**mhumm2** · Jul 31, 2010, 02:45 AM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

Okay, to catch up, I opened FF, saved my BMs as an HTML file, opened Dolphin and went to /Home/.mozilla/firefox and renamed the
folder 83wlams6.default to 83wlams6.default.old. Then I closed FF and reopened it.

My BMs are still active?!?! The only thing that changed is the forum didn't know my auto-login. Could there be another FF directory? I don't get it.

I have not added any extensions to FF, but it did upgrade once or twice since installing Lynx. Any ideas?

**Snowhog** · Jul 31, 2010, 12:53 PM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

Cache.

**mhumm2** · Aug 01, 2010, 05:29 PM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

Okay Snowhog, you've got my attention. Do you mean you suspect a cache problem with FF or Kubuntu? How do I check this out?

BTW, I was playing BOS Wars and Akondi crashed (along with my whole system) twice in 15 minutes! The computer rebooted without incident, but
this is getting very frustrating very quickly.

**mhumm2** · Aug 01, 2010, 07:41 PM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

I just took a look at my syslog. I think I may have found some problems, but I'd like an "expert" to comment on this excerpt. This is the last uncommanded reboot. The system is still running (so far) repeating the sr0 line constantly.

Code:

Aug 1 20:23:25 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9847.087924] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:27 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9849.085202] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:27 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9849.086914] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:29 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9851.089457] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:29 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9851.091200] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:31 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9853.086412] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:31 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9853.088644] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:31 AMD-Phenom-II kdm[928]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly
Aug 1 20:23:31 AMD-Phenom-II acpid: client 3579[0:0] has disconnected
Aug 1 20:23:31 AMD-Phenom-II acpid: client 3579[0:0] has disconnected
Aug 1 20:23:31 AMD-Phenom-II acpid: client connected from 5497[0:0]
Aug 1 20:23:31 AMD-Phenom-II acpid: 1 client rule loaded
Aug 1 20:23:32 AMD-Phenom-II acpid: client connected from 5497[0:0]
Aug 1 20:23:32 AMD-Phenom-II acpid: 1 client rule loaded
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.086906] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.088572] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II anacron[5637]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2010-08-01
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II anacron[5637]: Normal exit (0 jobs run)
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.368830] CPU0 attaching NULL sched-domain.
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.368834] CPU1 attaching NULL sched-domain.
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.393617] CPU0 attaching sched-domain:
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.393626] domain 0: span 0-1 level MC
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.393634]  groups: 0 1
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.393647] CPU1 attaching sched-domain:
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.393652] domain 0: span 0-1 level MC
Aug 1 20:23:33 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9855.393658]  groups: 1 0
Aug 1 20:23:35 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9857.085935] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:35 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9857.087584] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:36 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9858.933252] virtuoso-t[5691]: segfault at 9bb17 ip 080a6508 sp b677c494 error 4 in virtuoso-t[8048000+88d000]
Aug 1 20:23:37 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9859.086055] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:37 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9859.087713] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:39 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9861.086236] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:39 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9861.087954] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:40 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9862.317847] nepomukservices[5675]: segfault at 5 ip 00b13ca8 sp bfdc84a0 error 4 in libsoprano.so.4.3.0[ace000+ef000]
Aug 1 20:23:40 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9862.417721] nepomukservices[5805]: segfault at 13 ip 00eb7ca8 sp bfff5b80 error 4 in libsoprano.so.4.3.0[e72000+ef000]
Aug 1 20:23:40 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9862.556545] nepomukservices[5817]: segfault at 8e50038 ip 01ce9ca8 sp bf89f4c0 error 4 in libsoprano.so.4.3.0[1ca4000+ef000]
Aug 1 20:23:40 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9862.712448] nepomukservices[5824]: segfault at 2 ip 001c0604 sp bfab96b0 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.6.3[110000+273000]
Aug 1 20:23:40 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9862.858276] nepomukservices[5830]: segfault at 2 ip 00383604 sp bf9a0020 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.6.3[2d3000+273000]
Aug 1 20:23:40 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9863.008558] nepomukservices[5836]: segfault at 74697373 ip 03694ca8 sp bf9fb4b0 error 4 in libsoprano.so.4.3.0[364f000+ef000]
Aug 1 20:23:41 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9863.086022] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:41 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9863.087669] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:43 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9865.086749] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:43 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9865.090345] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:45 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9867.086146] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:45 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9867.087929] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:47 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9869.086061] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:47 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9869.088003] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:49 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9871.086937] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:49 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9871.088807] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:51 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9873.085788] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
Aug 1 20:23:51 AMD-Phenom-II kernel: [ 9873.087575] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0

**mhumm2** · Aug 01, 2010, 11:08 PM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

I lost some posts due to LL spontaneously rebooting. I took a look at my syslog again and with a little research believe my reboot problem was caused by nepomukservices. I disabled this service in the system settings and removed the application using synaptic. Upon reboot, so far, the system seems to be stable and it hasn't rebooted yet. I even got through an entire BOS Wars game which I could not do before. If the system remains solid over the next 12 hours, I intend to update this thread as SOLVED !!!

Thank you to all who weighed in and offered your help. I really do appreciate it. I try to give back whenever I can. Eventually, someone has to have a problem that I know how to fix

I still do have the VFS error message, but that will be another post I think. Thanks again.

**Fintan** · Aug 02, 2010, 12:14 AM

Re: Kwin crashes then other stuff crashes and locks my system up

Quote from your syslog:

VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0

I had something like that in the past and this helped:
http://thebigbyte.blogspot.com/2010/...-media-or.html

I hope that is useful

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