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**claydoh** · Sep 08, 2010, 06:26 PM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Unless you want to jump into KDE 4.5.x right away, you should be fine. It is the kwin stuff there that is trying to use those extensons, and for the moment some cards have been blacklisted. but some of the blacklisting iirc is in certain effects, like Blur. My onboard HD3200 works pretty well with the open ati drivers, but my old laptop w/old ati does not have desktop effects at the moment.

You might just want to wait, but right now Nvidia seem to have the least problems with KDE atm, but I couldn't tell you which card is well supported

**PhilT** · Sep 09, 2010, 03:21 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Thanks Claydoh. It was since upgrading to KDE 4.5.1 that the problems began! It's the same in Lucid and Maverick as far as I can see. I'll hang on and see "what turns up!" unless I get some good card recommendations. I guess "progress" sometimes results in temporary regression?

**leadwt** · Sep 09, 2010, 11:57 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Thanks for bringing this up - I'm finding little in the way of up-to-date info. on the best supported video cards for Linux (read Kubuntu).

Any more offers on this as I am looking to upgrade my video card . . . ?

Share (agony aunt style) your experiences.

**ardvark71** · Sep 09, 2010, 04:34 PM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Hi....

To be able to fine tune some recommendations for you, I would need to know your system specs or the "make and model." As a rule of thumb, Nvidia is usually always the best way to go, as you already know. 10.04 works great with the proprietary drivers on my HP dv9830us (GeForce 8600M GS.)

You might have already been to this site, but here are some reviews for quite a few cards.

Regards...

**leadwt** · Sep 10, 2010, 09:23 AM

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Hello ardvark71,

I had come across these pages but they are quite old however Nvidia does seem to get consistently good reviews. You can see my 'spec' from the signature if you have any advice - which would be appreciated as is your post.

Regards

**ardvark71** · Sep 11, 2010, 02:30 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Originally posted by leadwt

You can see my 'spec' from the signature if you have any advice - which would be appreciated as is your post.

Hi...

I need a bit more information, either a motherboard or computer (like Dell, HP, Asus, etc.,) brand and model number.

Regards...

**leadwt** · Sep 11, 2010, 06:56 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Hi,

My motherboard is an RS482-M (Elitegroup). Amazingly I still have the 'user's guide'!

Thanks

**ardvark71** · Sep 11, 2010, 10:29 PM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Originally posted by leadwt

My motherboard is an RS482-M (Elitegroup). Amazingly I still have the 'user's guide'!

Hi...

I was able find this card on Newegg that I hope will work well for you. It doesn't appear to be as good as the 8500/8600 series (and above) since it doesn't include the 2nd generation PureVideo technology but it's one of the best I could find on Newegg for the PCI-E x16 port. If you try to run a 2.0 or 2.1 x16 card on your motherboard, you run the risk of bottlenecking. Jaton was mentioned on Nvidia's site so I'm guessing they're a "trusted manufacturer" as far as they're concerned. However, if you want to go a bit cheaper, there are different brands with the same chipset over at TigerDirect.

The 8400 GS seems to be Linux friendly, here is a thread at Ubuntu's forum where someone has asked about XFX's (another manufacturer) card.

However, be sure that whoever you buy it from will take it back it in case it doesn't work for whatever reason.

I also found the spec sheet for your motherboard here.

Hope this helps.

Regards...

**leadwt** · Sep 12, 2010, 05:02 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Hi ardvark71,

Thanks for your post - really helpful for a non-techie like me.

I'm in UK so I am looking at equivalent cards available here. Seems to be quite a range based on the 8400 and not expensive. If (IF) I take the plunge I'll post the result/s in due course.

Many thanks for your input.

Regards.

**ardvark71** · Sep 13, 2010, 02:49 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Originally posted by leadwt

Hi ardvark71,

Thanks for your post - really helpful for a non-techie like me.

I'm in UK so I am looking at equivalent cards available here. Seems to be quite a range based on the 8400 and not expensive. If (IF) I take the plunge I'll post the result/s in due course.

Many thanks for your input.

Hi...

You're most welcome, I'm glad I could be of assistance.

I don't know why I assumed you live in the U.S., my apologies for that!

Regards...

**PhilT** · Sep 13, 2010, 06:32 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Thanks to all for their comments.

I waited a bit, looked at various sites, read some "best buy" blogs and eventually decided to buy a new Nvidia card, basically because my motherboard (ASUS® P5N73-AM: DDR2, S-ATA II, 1 x PCI-E x16, 2 PCI) has some on-board Nvidia components.

I eventually plunged in and purchased a GeForce GTS250 1Gb card (not really cheap - but middle of the road; it boasts 1024MB, 256bit, GDDR3, Dual-link DVI/VGA/HDMI). I had a bit of difficulty purging the old fglrx/radeon files and cleaning up the .kde/share/config/kwinrc file to get Compositing to work on my stalled Lucid system.

I did a fresh install of my test Maverick system, and had a minor problem installing the drivers (Jockey-KDE) which needed a bit of patience. But the result is worth the effort.

Both systems are now flying with all the effects you could want! Both show ~25,000 frames in the glxgears test, which translates to about 30fps in Stellarium.

So now I'm quite happy

I just hope this Nvidia card does not blow up like the last one did; it's got a big fan but runs without a sound.

**ardvark71** · Sep 16, 2010, 03:40 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Nevermind, this post can be deleted.

**leadwt** · Sep 21, 2010, 04:22 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

I've got myself an ASUS EN8400GS based upon info above and it took a minute to plug and 30 to sort out drivers etc. Not really sure what Nvidia packages were required but selected a few that seemed necessary and everything is cracking along fine. A marked improvement on the ATI Radeon X1300 which has been replaced. (Would anyone like it?

)

Next stage is to make sure ati files are all gone (any suggestions here apart from removing the packages?) and I shall investigate some of these tests that can be run.

Thanks for the guidance 'ardvark71' (Are you really that old??

)

BFN

**ardvark71** · Sep 22, 2010, 03:14 AM

Re: ATI Graphics card HD3650 now seems to be Blacklisted

Originally posted by leadwt

I've got myself an ASUS EN8400GS based upon info above and it took a minute to plug and 30 to sort out drivers etc. Not really sure what Nvidia packages were required but selected a few that seemed necessary and everything is cracking along fine. A marked improvement on the ATI Radeon X1300 which has been replaced. (Would anyone like it?

)

Thanks for the guidance 'ardvark71' (Are you really that old??

)

Hi...

You're welcome, I'm glad I could and I would be happy to accept your Radeon X1300 if the price is right, which would be "free."

Do you have direct rendering with the drivers you installed?

"71" refers to the year I was born, 1971.

Regards...

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