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**oshunluvr** · Jun 10, 2010, 04:11 AM

Re: apcupsd does not start

If you don't have that file you've got nothing attached no usb interface. Even your usb ports are listed in that file. What does lsusb and lsmod |grep usb report?

**aleck** · Jun 10, 2010, 02:50 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

Originally posted by oshunluvr

If you don't have that file you've got nothing attached no usb interface. Even your usb ports are listed in that file. What does lsusb and lsmod |grep usb report?

Thanks very much for your response!
Here are the reports:
$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 051d:0002 American Power Conversion Uninterruptible Power Supply
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 09da:002b A4 Tech Co., Ltd
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 03eb:0902 Atmel Corp. 4-Port Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
$ lsmod | grep usb
usbhid 36110 1
hid 67032 1 usbhid

**oshunluvr** · Jun 11, 2010, 08:15 AM

Re: apcupsd does not start

Well, all that looks normal. Sorry about the other comment regarding /proc/bus/usb/devices : we don't have that file. My APC is hooked to my server that runs a different distro.

I have attached my apcupsd.conf file (all remarks removed). Check your settings against mine.

You say starting apcupsd is unsuccessful but you don't say what error(s) your getting? Try starting it in a terminal and report the exact error messages. Then run "dmesg" and see if anything refers to your APC.

**aleck** · Jun 11, 2010, 05:50 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

As a base for my apcupsd.conf file I took usb.conf (and renamed it of course) from the examples/ directory of the apcupsd package documentation.
APCUPS User Manual says: "If you have a USB device, it is better not to specify a DEVICE directive by leaving it black or commenting it out."
So did I (and changed also NOLOGON directive which does not affect the problem) and the essential elements of my apcupsd.conf file are the following:

UPSCABLE usb
UPSTYPE usb
DEVICE
LOCKFILE /var/lock
UPSCLASS standalone
UPSMODE disable

in accordance with the Manual. By the way these preparations worked on my system under a previous Red Hat clone distro.
Then I set ISCONFIGURED=yes in /etc/default/apcupsd and rebooted the system.

syslog says:
kernel [ 3.871236] generic-usb 0003:051D:0002.0002: hiddev96,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Device [American Power Conversion Back-UPS RS 500 FW:30.j4.I USB FW:j4] on usb-0000:00:07.2-2.4/input0
apcupsd[799] Terminating due to configuration file errors.
apcupsd[799] Lock file read error. ERR=Is a directory
apcupsd[799] apcupsd error shutdown completed

dmesg says:
[ 3.871236] generic-usb 0003:051D:0002.0002: hiddev96,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Device [American Power Conversion Back-UPS RS 500 FW:30.j4.I USB FW:j4] on usb-0000:00:07.2-2.4/input0

**oshunluvr** · Jun 12, 2010, 02:09 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

Have you tried setting the lock to a different directory?? Seems that's the error you're getting.

**aleck** · Jun 12, 2010, 03:00 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

Originally posted by oshunluvr

Have you tried setting the lock to a different directory?? Seems that's the error you're getting.

No, I have not.
That is quite easy to try: which directory do you advise to use?

_But_:
1) Directory /var/lock do exist on the system and is used by other applications successfully.
2) APCUPSD User Manual says:
To make sure that your USB subsystem can see the UPS, just do this from a shell prompt:
cat /proc/bus/usb/devices

This information is updated by the kernel whenever a device is plugged in or unplugged, irrespective of whether apcupsd is running or not. It contains details on all the USB devices in your system including hubs (internal and external), input devices, and UPSes.
You should get some output back that includes something like this, featuring a BackUPS RS 1000:
T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 3 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=051d ProdID=0002 Rev= 1.06
S: Manufacturer=American Power Conversion
S: Product=Back-UPS RS 1000 FW:7.g3 .D USB FW:g3
S: SerialNumber=JB0308036505
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 24mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hid
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NB "irrespective of whether apcupsd is running or not"

As I wrote before this 1st test has failed.
apcupsd cannot _reach_ the UPS through its usb-cable, not lock file, afaik. On the previous Red Hat clone system the lock file was situated on the same place w/o any problems.

Well, /proc/bus/usb/devices does not exist; but /proc/bus/input/devices and /proc/bus/pci/devices are on their places. That drives my mind to the file system layout but I cannot resolve this problem due to lack of knowledge.

**oshunluvr** · Jun 12, 2010, 03:08 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

The /proc/bus/usb/devices file is a redhat type system file. In debian based (like Kubuntu) it's /dev/bus/usb/001 - the "001" being the bus number your ups is connected to according to your lsusb. I doubt that's the issue, but it's worth noting.

I'm sort of hamstrung by the fact that mine is connected to a redhat server, not my kubuntu desktop.

Anyway: maybe pick a lock file location in your home just to see if it works?

**aleck** · Jun 12, 2010, 03:46 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

I have just changed LOCKFILE value in /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf to my home directory and rebooted the system -- the same result; syslog:
apcupsd[799] Terminating due to configuration file errors.
apcupsd[799] Lock file read error. ERR=Is a directory
apcupsd[799] apcupsd error shutdown completed

**oshunluvr** · Jun 12, 2010, 05:06 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

I can't find anything about this error.

My lock file is called /var/lock/LCK.. and contains 0000004255.

Maybe creating the file manually?

**aleck** · Jun 14, 2010, 12:07 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

Originally posted by oshunluvr

I can't find anything about this error.

My lock file is called /var/lock/LCK.. and contains 0000004255.

Maybe creating the file manually?

Following your advice I have created the file in my home directory which contents is a copy of yours:
~/LCK..: ASCII text, with no line terminators
~$ cat LCK..
0000004255

The same result:
apcupsd[803] Terminating due to configuration file errors.
apcupsd[803] Lock file read error. ERR=Is a directory
apcupsd[803] apcupsd error shutdown completed

**aleck** · Jun 16, 2010, 04:25 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

Is anyone use apcupsd under this OS without problem?

**sabbathpriest** · Jun 16, 2010, 04:51 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

Hey Aleck,
Try this, it worked for me:

Step 1: In the console:

sudo cupsd

Step 2: Then in your browser go to

http://localhost:631/

The user ID and Password are the same you have for the system

Step 3: On the Administration tab, click on add printer and follow the usual steps.

**aleck** · Jun 16, 2010, 07:14 PM

Re: apcupsd does not start

Originally posted by sabbathpriest

Hey Aleck,
Try this, it worked for me:

Step 1: In the console:

sudo cupsd

Step 2: Then in your browser go to

http://localhost:631/

The user ID and Password are the same you have for the system

Step 3: On the Administration tab, click on add printer and follow the usual steps.

I do not understand what relation has cupsd to apcupsd? The latter is software for APC UPSes.

**sabbathpriest** · Jun 17, 2010, 10:30 AM

Re: apcupsd does not start

You are right, sorry.

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