giving a "ubiquity" error at line 242 a kde_ui.py error at lines 451 and 847.
The results are the same if the desktop install icon is chosen or the installation line on the LiveCD menu is chosen.
(The iso passed the md5sum check and the burned CD also passed the CD check option on the menu)
UPDATE EDIT:
Background: A friend's wife, who had steadfastly refused a standing offer to install Linux on her Gateway MX6450 laptop (with BCM 4318 wifi and ATI XPRESS 200M video chip) to replace her beloved XP, gave me a call Friday. She had clicked on a link on a Google search list and got two surprises: a volley of pron pages popping up and a "User Protection" pop up which claimed to find viruses and Trojans on her laptop, which it would remove if she sent money to the makers of "User Protection" software. "Can you remove the virus?", she asked. She had a popular updated and active AV product installed. She got infected anyway. She messed with the infection for an entire week.
It turned out that her "recovery disc" didn't have a fully copy of XP on it. The "D:" drive contained a restoration copy of XP. It was also infected. So was the MBR. The main malware was a keyboard logger. She's changing her bank passwords tomorrow. (Hope it's not too late...) The problem is identifying the primary virus location. Removing the obvious viral components from the Register (and the fs), and deleting the account and creating a fresh account, didn't help. Even though the AV scan said all hundred thousand + files were "clean", the keyboard logger would reappear. The annoying "User Protection" dialogs were gone, but the logger wouldn't go away. Restoring XP would only restore the infection, and the only way to clean up the MBR was to overwrite it with a fresh one. A copy wouldn't work.
She saw the necessity of replacing XP totally with Linux.
My choice was Kubuntu. I downloaded the 3-26-10 daily LiveCD, got a good burn, and booted it. The Kubuntu desktop came up. I clicked on the desktop install icon and after choosing the partition configuration sit back to watch the show. A few minutes later the error msgs I mentioned when I first posted this problem stopped the installation dead in its tracks.
I burned a good copy of the 3.25.10 daily LiveCD. Same problem.
I went as far back as 2-28-10, using the CD I used to install LL on this laptop. Same problem. The LiveCD runs fine, but the install crashes on this Gateway.
With Kubuntu off the menu, I switched to the CD of the PCLinuxOS 2010 Beta 1. It hung on xorg's attempt to start the xserver. The BIG difference, however, was the PCLinuxOS had a second option that Kubuntu does not have, to use a VESA xserver to get a functioning desktop when HAL fails to create one. That option worked and I got a desktop. I clicked on the install icon and 30 minutes later I had a functional Linux desktop on that 2005 Gateway laptop, albeit with a VESA display, and, with no wifi. Wireless.kernel.org had the necessary software and instructions to get the BCM 4318 Airforce One wifi chip running. However, NONE of the video driver options available from PCLOS would give me 3D accelerated video.
It's another example of that old catch-22 I remarked about a couple weeks ago. The laptop is 5 years old. The ATI driver has been moved to the bcm43-legacy section (unsupported). The latest, or even recent, versions of ATI Catalyst do NOT support the Radeon XPRESS 200M chip. Attempt to use an older version of Catalyst which does support the chip and you get a msg which says that version of Catalyst does not support the newer kernel. The only way I can get the chip supported is if I install the 8.04 or older version of Kubuntu. To be clear: there is NO ATI support for older chips on newer Linux kernels. Interestingly, there IS ATI support for older chips on newer Windows kernels.
The MORAL of this story: IF you are giving an opportunity to buy an older laptop or desktop containing an ATI chip, check the version of the video chip. It it is on the legacy list the odds are you won't find support for it except for a VESA screen, which is something that Kubuntu's HAL doesn't seem able to supply.
This brings up an obvious dilemma. My Sony VAIO VGN-FW140E has the Intel GM45 chip in it. I bought it in August of 2008, but it was SIX months before I was able to move off of a VESA screen to a 3D accelerated screen. Accelerated video on this laptop was iffy at first. TuxRacer, Stellarium, SecondLife, TORCS, etc., all have problems and flakiness. It's only been in the last few months that my accelerated video is delivering what it is capable of. With the Gateway example in my mind, I am now wondering how long I will be able to progress through future Kubuntu versions before my GM45 slips into the "legacy" category and the old drivers won't work on the new kernels. IF the Gateway is any example, I have THREE useful years left on this laptop before I must revert to a VESA screen to continue to use it with the latest and greatest, or I must forever remain at the last version which supports the GM45. Just another example of Microsoft's monopoly influence. Trivial support from DELL, with even less from the other OEMs, and trivial support from ATI. Don't know how good NVIDIA's Linux support is. One can always buy a video card that has Linux support, but replacing the video chip with a newer, different one, is something I've never heard of. So, choose your laptops well.
Unfortunately, attempts to produce an "open source" accelerated video chip have come to naught.
The results are the same if the desktop install icon is chosen or the installation line on the LiveCD menu is chosen.
(The iso passed the md5sum check and the burned CD also passed the CD check option on the menu)
UPDATE EDIT:
Background: A friend's wife, who had steadfastly refused a standing offer to install Linux on her Gateway MX6450 laptop (with BCM 4318 wifi and ATI XPRESS 200M video chip) to replace her beloved XP, gave me a call Friday. She had clicked on a link on a Google search list and got two surprises: a volley of pron pages popping up and a "User Protection" pop up which claimed to find viruses and Trojans on her laptop, which it would remove if she sent money to the makers of "User Protection" software. "Can you remove the virus?", she asked. She had a popular updated and active AV product installed. She got infected anyway. She messed with the infection for an entire week.
It turned out that her "recovery disc" didn't have a fully copy of XP on it. The "D:" drive contained a restoration copy of XP. It was also infected. So was the MBR. The main malware was a keyboard logger. She's changing her bank passwords tomorrow. (Hope it's not too late...) The problem is identifying the primary virus location. Removing the obvious viral components from the Register (and the fs), and deleting the account and creating a fresh account, didn't help. Even though the AV scan said all hundred thousand + files were "clean", the keyboard logger would reappear. The annoying "User Protection" dialogs were gone, but the logger wouldn't go away. Restoring XP would only restore the infection, and the only way to clean up the MBR was to overwrite it with a fresh one. A copy wouldn't work.
She saw the necessity of replacing XP totally with Linux.
My choice was Kubuntu. I downloaded the 3-26-10 daily LiveCD, got a good burn, and booted it. The Kubuntu desktop came up. I clicked on the desktop install icon and after choosing the partition configuration sit back to watch the show. A few minutes later the error msgs I mentioned when I first posted this problem stopped the installation dead in its tracks.
I burned a good copy of the 3.25.10 daily LiveCD. Same problem.
I went as far back as 2-28-10, using the CD I used to install LL on this laptop. Same problem. The LiveCD runs fine, but the install crashes on this Gateway.
With Kubuntu off the menu, I switched to the CD of the PCLinuxOS 2010 Beta 1. It hung on xorg's attempt to start the xserver. The BIG difference, however, was the PCLinuxOS had a second option that Kubuntu does not have, to use a VESA xserver to get a functioning desktop when HAL fails to create one. That option worked and I got a desktop. I clicked on the install icon and 30 minutes later I had a functional Linux desktop on that 2005 Gateway laptop, albeit with a VESA display, and, with no wifi. Wireless.kernel.org had the necessary software and instructions to get the BCM 4318 Airforce One wifi chip running. However, NONE of the video driver options available from PCLOS would give me 3D accelerated video.
It's another example of that old catch-22 I remarked about a couple weeks ago. The laptop is 5 years old. The ATI driver has been moved to the bcm43-legacy section (unsupported). The latest, or even recent, versions of ATI Catalyst do NOT support the Radeon XPRESS 200M chip. Attempt to use an older version of Catalyst which does support the chip and you get a msg which says that version of Catalyst does not support the newer kernel. The only way I can get the chip supported is if I install the 8.04 or older version of Kubuntu. To be clear: there is NO ATI support for older chips on newer Linux kernels. Interestingly, there IS ATI support for older chips on newer Windows kernels.
The MORAL of this story: IF you are giving an opportunity to buy an older laptop or desktop containing an ATI chip, check the version of the video chip. It it is on the legacy list the odds are you won't find support for it except for a VESA screen, which is something that Kubuntu's HAL doesn't seem able to supply.
This brings up an obvious dilemma. My Sony VAIO VGN-FW140E has the Intel GM45 chip in it. I bought it in August of 2008, but it was SIX months before I was able to move off of a VESA screen to a 3D accelerated screen. Accelerated video on this laptop was iffy at first. TuxRacer, Stellarium, SecondLife, TORCS, etc., all have problems and flakiness. It's only been in the last few months that my accelerated video is delivering what it is capable of. With the Gateway example in my mind, I am now wondering how long I will be able to progress through future Kubuntu versions before my GM45 slips into the "legacy" category and the old drivers won't work on the new kernels. IF the Gateway is any example, I have THREE useful years left on this laptop before I must revert to a VESA screen to continue to use it with the latest and greatest, or I must forever remain at the last version which supports the GM45. Just another example of Microsoft's monopoly influence. Trivial support from DELL, with even less from the other OEMs, and trivial support from ATI. Don't know how good NVIDIA's Linux support is. One can always buy a video card that has Linux support, but replacing the video chip with a newer, different one, is something I've never heard of. So, choose your laptops well.
Unfortunately, attempts to produce an "open source" accelerated video chip have come to naught.
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