howto use kde3 in intrepid?

[dentaku65]

I simply do not see this.

First and foremost kde3.5.x will be supported by kde for a very long time, and by extension by kubuntu.

Not at all. Kubuntu Intrepid will dismissis kde3, this is widely known.

Second: Nobody is forcing anyone to install Intrepid.

And so what? This means that someone can and someone cannot? A community senseless...

Third: Yes, kde.4.2.x will rock. I use the neon-kde-nightly on a daily basis and it is already very cool.
Five different desktop views is just one of the cool bits.

Good for you. In my case KDE4 from neon crashing all the time, Amarok 2 do not even open....

Do, I miss a few things? Sure.
Like telling my computer to make me a bloody mary and dictate my letters / emails. But kde3.5.x couldn't do that either.

I just ask a way to upgrade my system an use kde3 AND kde4 in the same way I'm doing now with Hardy.

[dentaku65]

I'm already building and maintaining KDE3 for Intrepid.   Right now I have opted to host the repository on my servers instead of using the PPAs so that I can work around several odd little bugs that occur during KDE3 compilation, and to maintain control over the entire build/upload process.

Madscientist, first of all thank you for your work!
Second: can you post here a little how-to install kde3 from your repos?

[madscientist159]

I'm already building and maintaining KDE3 for Intrepid.   Right now I have opted to host the repository on my servers instead of using the PPAs so that I can work around several odd little bugs that occur during KDE3 compilation, and to maintain control over the entire build/upload process.

Madscientist, first of all thank you for your work!
Second: can you post here a little how-to install kde3 from your repos?

Sure, although you might want to wait for Troberg to test on his machine(s), just to ensure stability.

Case 1 [Already upgraded to Intrepid and are running KDE4]:
1. Open a terminal window, I like to use konsole and nano
2. Type in sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list <Enter>
3. Paste this:

deb http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ intrepid main
deb-src http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ intrepid main

at the end of the file (you can use Shift+Insert to paste into Konsole.  Now press Ctrl-X <Enter> Y <Enter> to save.
4. Type sudo apt-get update <Enter>
5. Type sudo apt-get install kde3 <Enter>  APT will do some calculating and ask if you want to "upgrade" or not, as well as giving a list of packages that will be installed, upgraded and removed.  Make sure that nothing you need is being removed, then type Y <Enter>
6. Wait for the update to complete, and then type in sudo reboot <Enter>  You need to reboot from the terminal because you have just removed all of KDE4, and therefore cannot reboot through KDM.
7. Enjoy!

Case 2 [Running KDE3 under Hardy and want to upgrade to Intrepid]:
1. Open a terminal window, I like to use konsole and nano
2. Type in sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup <Enter>
3. Type in sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list <Enter>
4. Paste this:

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.

deb http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted
deb-src http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted
deb-src http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
deb-src http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
deb http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates universe
deb-src http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid multiverse
deb-src http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid multiverse
deb http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates multiverse
deb-src http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu
## users.
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner

deb http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted
deb-src http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted
deb http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-security universe
deb-src http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-security universe
deb http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-security multiverse
deb-src http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/ intrepid-security multiverse

# Pearson Computing KDE3.5 Repository
deb http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ intrepid main
deb-src http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ intrepid main

into the file (you can use Shift+Insert to paste into Konsole.  Now press Ctrl-X <Enter> Y <Enter> to save.  Obviously if you want to use a different mirror, or select free/nonfree repositories, do that at this time.
5. Type sudo apt-get update <Enter>
6. Type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <Enter>  Make sure that everything APT wants to do (remove, install and upgrade) is acceptable to you, and type Y <Enter>
7. You can reboot normally--the new KDM overlays almost perfectly onto the existing Hardy KDM.
8. Enjoy!

[Troberg]

Sure, although you might want to wait for Troberg to test on his machine(s), just to ensure stability.

As it looks now, that means next week.

If you are in a hurry, do what I intend to do, at least in the first tests: set up a virtual machine using VirtualBox and test it there.

[madscientist159]

Looks like a lot of people are interested in this (some have contacted me via Email), so I put up a bugtracker here:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/

If you find bugs, please file 'em!   Be sure to mention which architecture your are running, and which binary package is the problem.

I am also looking for other developers to help maintain KDE3.5.10 for Intrepid, and also to fix any KDE3.5 bugs that might have crept in.  Depending on how many people want to keep KDE3.5, maybe we can even fix some of its deficiencies!   If you're interested, send me a message at kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net

[jolly79]

Hi

I just want to say that this is really cool, and madscientist159 u are a god.
I was going to switch to another distro, because i think kde 4* is rubbish.

Cant wait til the new release comes out so i can run kde 3.5 on it :-)

[dentaku65]

Ok, I upgraded my system to Kubuntu Intrepid, then I installed the kde3 version provided by Madscientist159 and everything went well. A soon as I can I will post an howto, I just say that I had to install the ubuntu-desktop (Gnome) in Hardy before the Intrepid upgrade.

[dentaku65]

Ok here I post the HowTo:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960742

Good luck!

[blackbelt_jones]

I'm running KDE3 in intrepid which I installed from this repository:

http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/

I had a problem with logging onto KDM, which I solved by using a knoppix disk to disable kdm, and logging on with the console, which I prefer anyway. There have been no other reports of this problem that the administrator is aware of.

And I love it it.  This is my first experience with KDE 3.5.10.  It's not to supposed to have new features, but I noticed a great new feature right away, plus a nice clean look.

The moral of the story is that when the development team of MAJOR LINUX DISTRO X tells you flatly that YOU CANNOT RUN KDE3 ON THEIR LATEST RELEASE, don't be angry, be amused!


Here's the address of my KDE3 user's group in facebook,  We're just starting but since Intrepid was released we're getting a new member every day.  I think wr're going to  serve as a clearinghouse for helping users find unofficial Repos.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=28353308082